<p>$40k to attend the #15 (?) school in the nation is a steal. You know parents pay $25-40k a year for primary and secondary school to position their kid to pay full price at a school like Wash U, right?</p>
<p>Discounting Olin on the UM forum is to be expected. But overall the undergraduate school is a tier above UM undergrad. There’s way more to life than where your college classmates go to grad school. That said, please cite your source. I find it very hard to believe.</p>
<p>Higher circles are people that don’t only know colleges on ESPN. Wash U attracts a certain type of applicant that doesn’t hang around people that don’t know what Wash U is. In short, a Wash U student doesn’t care about people who haven’t heard of their school.</p>
<p>Alexandre, why do you keep bringing up the peer assessment which is focused on graduate research? University presidents are too far removed to properly judge undergraduate prestige and education.</p>
<p>Why do anti- UM peeps ( even those that pretend to be for it) hang out in the UM forum? </p>
<p>Seems like a bizarre hobby. Maybe take up shrinky dinks or pottery or something. </p>
<p>ennisrthemenace, I bring up the peer assessment score because it is the only accurate rating of institutions at the undergraduate level. University presidents know exactly what they are doing when they are assigning their rating of universities. They are specifically asked to rate the quality of undergraduate education. If the PA were a rating of graduate research, Texas, UDub and Wisconsin would all blow Brown and Dartmouth out of the water, and yet, the PA assigns Texas, UDub and Wisconsin PAs of 4.0 or 4.1 while Brown and Dartmouth have PAs of 4.4. Clearly, those university presidents are no rating institutions according to research. </p>
<p>Regardless of whether you are wise enough to heed the opinion of university presidents, or arrogant enough to assume you know more than the collective wisdom of hundreds of university presidents is immaterial. It does not change the fact that they represent a chunk of the “higher circle” that flinstone claims believe WUSTL is superior to Michigan. </p>
<p>^^Actually I am certain it’s the same peep with multiple screen names. </p>
<p>“If that were the case, it would have a much higher percentage of grads enrolling in top graduate schools, but that is not the case.” Explain this. It’s very hard to believe UM sends a higher % of their 27k undergrad students to better grad schools than the 7k at Wash U. I assume you misspoke?</p>
<p>“I’m going to UM but this is a no brainer to me: take the full ride from Wash U immediately. Your stats much be Ivy caliber if Wash U is giving you a full ride. I assume rejected from Ivies and Northwestern?”</p>
<p>“Wash U is a better school with a higher concentration of gifted students, period. Olin v Ross is a wash. There’s not a chance I’d pay more to go to UM over Wash U.”</p>
<p>No Michigan student is ever going to make statements like the ones listed above. At least none that I have ever met. This sounds just like something a currently banned poster would have stated. I’m just assuming he was careful not to include Duke in his rejection list. </p>
<p>“Why do anti- UM peeps ( even those that pretend to be for it) hang out in the UM forum?” Why can’t you respect more than one college or note the differences between two? You’re being ridiculous.</p>
<p>"“If that were the case, it would have a much higher percentage of grads enrolling in top graduate schools, but that is not the case.” Explain this. It’s very hard to believe UM sends a higher % of their 27k undergrad students to better grad schools than the 7k at Wash U. I assume you misspoke?"</p>
<p>Alexandre stated that WUSTL, “would have a MUCH higher percentage of grads enrolling in graduate schools…”…not just a higher percentage. Only a poster with an agenda would twist words that are so easily refuted. Certainly not a current Michigan student</p>
<p>“No Michigan student is ever going to make statements like the ones listed above.” Those statements are facts. There isn’t a question that the private schools in the top 20 have a higher concentration of high caliber students. UM has a great top half but everyone knows the bottom half or at least the bottom 25% is a little suspect. Smaller privates don’t have that problem.</p>
<p>I’m just waiting for your alias ennisthemenace to chime in flintsone, errr I mean goldenboy. Once again, you aren’t fooling anyone who has been on these boards for a long time. </p>
<p>He should define “much” and show us his source.</p>
<p>Wash U Olin is the #1 Feeder program into the top 15 MBA Programs in the country. I don’t think graduate school placement is a problem. </p>
<p>Why don’t you clarify your financial aid situation. It doesn’t make sense that you’re getting $50k from Wash U and nada from UM as a top 10% in state applicant.</p>
<p>Once again… i’d like to reiterate. The 50K is MERIT BASED. The scholarship has nothing to do with my financial situation. It has everything to do with academics, extracurriculars etc. </p>
<p>From Michigan, its extremely, extremely rare to receive merit scholarships, especially as an in state applicant. Thus, I received no aid. </p>
<p>Your views are very myopic Mr Novi. The country is bigger than SE Michigan.</p>
<p>An in state preferred Ross and your wolverine access literally says $0 scholarships or Michigan grants?</p>
<p>Yes… Nothing other than a one time 1500 scholarship. </p>
<p>I think you’re lying, but since I’m bored I’ll keep this going: with both on the table, I wouldn’t pay a dollar more to attend UM over Wash U, and you’re thinking of spending $40,000? That would be the most ridiculous decision you could ever make in your life.</p>