<p>I believe there was another young missing girl from last year - even younger then Chelsea.</p>
<p>This is absolutely heartbreaking. And scary. </p>
<p>My thoughts go out to the family. (And if I were on the jury, yes, I would gladly fry the SOB.) :(</p>
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Yes - 15 y/o Amber DuBois from Escondido which is just north of this same lake - Lake Hodges. She disappeared while walking to her HS almost exactly a year ago. They’re investigating the person charged in the Chelsea case regarding Amber.
<a href=“http://www.bringhomeamber.com/[/url]”>http://www.bringhomeamber.com/</a></p>
<p>They also seem to be certain, probably through DNA evidence, that he’s the one who attacked another lady 2 months ago in the same area where Chelsea went missing. In that case, the lady, who had apparently studied martial arts for years, hit him in the face with her elbow and probably broke his nose and he ran off. Her action likely saved her life.</p>
<p>I have also read that the Colorado woman who was attacked in this same area two months ago has identified this same guy in a line up. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, after his attack on a 13 year old, his sentence was light despite a psychiatrist recommending a much stiffer sentence. Had he gotten the longer sentence, these others would have been spared. </p>
<p>Prayers for Chelsea’s family. Don’t know how her parents will ever get over this. Their lives are forever changed for the worse.</p>
<p>My grandparents lived in Fallbrook before moving to Ramona in San Diego County. I can’t tell you how many happy days we had as kids exploring the area - on foot and on bike and without parents (or grandparents) watching us all day. It’s a beautiful area. </p>
<p>Back in those days, they sent us out to “play” all day. Nowadays, kids are afraid to even go outside. Sad.</p>
<p>Larry King is talking about the case. I can’t watch it - so heartbreaking. Chelsea’s family is in my prayers.</p>
<p>This monster needs to go where he belongs - to hell. Frying him will do.</p>
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<p>I’m a runner too, and I feel a lot safer running (and walking, <em>especially</em> walking) in well-lit, populated urban areas, than on suburban trails. </p>
<p>In the former case, there are people around who would be able to hear you scream for help, or see that something was wrong. And there are gas stations and such that you can run into for refuge (which I did one time when I was walking on an urban street after dark and thought I was about to be mugged). </p>
<p>On a quiet suburban trail, upscale or not, there might not be anyone within shouting distance, and there’s probably not anyone within line of sight. After dark the street lights are fewer and farther between. There are usually no nearby commercial establishments like gas stations that you can flee into - if there are houses nearby, you can try running to one and ringing the doorbell, but the occupants might not be home, or might not answer the door in time.</p>
<p>I encourage anyone who does a significant amount of running or walking, especially alone, in any sort of neighborhood, to maintain good situational awareness. Don’t take shortcuts through dark alleys. And, if it’s a trail or less-populated area, carry a whistle.</p>
<p>I live in an urban area and grew up in a suburb surrounded by rural ( which hadn’t yet grown into the burbs they are now).</p>
<p>I feel much safer in the city, more lights, more people- but at the same time my H is freaking out, cause the young families are freaking out because a level three sex offender moved in across the street.</p>
<p>Which certainly is something to be concerned about- don’t get me wrong- but I am more concerned about the homeless guys, who aren’t necessarily registered in the area, Because their names and pictures are not on websites for people to track.
( I am not saying all transients are dangerous- but I think they are more unstable than the average bear)</p>
<p>Our parents may have sent us out side to play all day, as my parents did- Bridle Trails the development I grew up in, was a collection of single family homes with large landscaped yards, & virtually everyone had children the same age. It was surrounded by a county park and an elementary school as well as smaller developments where the lots were zoned for horses ( ironically- Bridle Trails was not).
Living in that suburb I knew of kids that were sexually assaulted in the summer by older brothers of their friends in a wooded lot where we would go to play.
I was also sexually assaulted on my way home from jr high ( actually in the landscaping of the school grounds) by classmates, and raped on my way home from high school.
I don’t think we were any safer then, and we were certainly less aware.</p>
<p>Just saw a report that they found the body of Amber DuBois.</p>
<p>I just heard - Amber Dubois’ remains were positively identified. They found her in a remote rugged canyon north of Escondido called ‘Pala’ just outside of an Indian reservation. This find seems very coincidental so I wonder if either this pervert who killed Chelsea gave the tip or if someone recalls seeing him in the area where Amber was just found. The authorities aren’t saying yet what tipped them to the area. </p>
<p>I’m glad Amber was found although of course I hoped she’d be somehow found alive.</p>
<p>My thoughts are with her family. Thankfully they can now bring her remains home and give her a respectful and proper burial. It is beyond my comprehension how these families can survive the not knowing. I hope the recovery of their loved one will bring them a measure of peace in a terrible, tragic situation.</p>
<p>From the news that I’ve listened to, there doesn’t seem to be a connection with the death of Amber Dubois and Mr. Gardner. Someone who knew something about the Amber Dubois murder finally spilled the beans. Police aren’t saying who or what yet. I’m glad that there is some closure for the parents in finding her body, but it must be bittersweet.</p>