Wow 78% acceptance for out of state. They are clearly willing to take lower stats to get OOS $$$. This is pretty disappointing to me. OOS and in state should be evaluated together and if the OOS pool doesn’t have the stats they shouldn’t be admitted, meanwhile parents in the SDSU fb group are complaining about the OOS cost… Clearly many kids only got in because they are paying more. How is this ok at a state school?? Wow!!! Definitely eye opening. I wonder if UCs do the same.
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Just please be aware that SDSU wants your out of state money. With 25%+ being accepted out of state there are many parents in the SDSU parent FB page that are complaining and/or really struggling to pay for college. It is pretty shocking to see parents allowing their kids to accept admission and then have buyers remorse later.
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The OOS applicant pool is around 8000 vs in-state which is around 75,000. The OOS applicant pool in general is self selecting and you cannot compare stats between in-state and OOS since the OOS students especially GPA do not get their HS Honors classes weighted like in-state applicants. Differences in HS curriculum’s OOS may not be comparable so that is why they are evaluated separately.
I stated this before that unless you work in admissions, you cannot know the whole process and as mentioned by a couple of posters that several OOS admits are having issues with the costs so yield (enrollment) is going to be lower for OOS admits vs in-state whom are eligible for state financial aid.
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The UC’s have capped OOS and International enrollment to 18% but admit rates are also high for these applicants with the exception of UCLA and UCB. Yield rates are low <10% for these applicants at all the other UC campuses with the exceptions of 2 mentioned.
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I respectfully disagree with this as my daughter who goes to a CA HS’s honors classes are not counted either as they do not qualify as UC/CSU honors. Only her APs are counted. This should be the same for OOS. At the very least unweighted should be compared amongst OOS and instate. I agree that this is a SDSU and state legislature issue, but there needs to be more visibility brought this issue as clearly if there are kids with 3.47 uw GPAs being admitted from OOS when kids in CA would be rejected with the same GPA that is a huge issue… Not directing this comment to anyone in this forum, just voicing my frustration on the process as I know so many kids would love to go to SDSU and the same level of academic standard should be held for all applicants.
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I just want to say that according to the CSU application numbers for 2023, SDSU had the most OOS applicants for all the CSU’s even beating out Cal Poly SLO by over a 1000 applicants. Since the CC community is not representative of all posters on social media, the admitted students posting are also not representative of the whole picture.
I also will say that after being on CC for the last 13 years, I take the stats posted with a grain of salt since many times the “CSU GPA” posted is not the actual CSU GPA used for admissions. Some posters use their unweighted or cumulative weighted etc…. So I think everyone should be wary about making assumptions based just on the stats posted on this website and any other.
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Before our kids could enter the AP classes, they were required to have Honors courses. To enter the honors courses, each student had to be approved by the department’s teachers teams (math, science, English) and each student had to complete summer assignments with a pass/no pass grade.
A large number of our county school districts do the same. SDSU/San Marcos/UCSD/USD/PLNU are familiar with this practice, at our area schools, and count these as rigor, according to our local schools’ counseling teams. I have neighbors in admissions at UCSD; they wipe the slate clean and confirm GPA calculations looking at unweighted coursework and rigor regardless of address.
A family friend, who retired from the Registrar’s office at SDSU, also indicated that they do their own calculations using unweighted and look at the whole transcript. They wanted kids who weren’t always “bookish”. My nephews didn’t have perfect GPA’s when they were admitted to SDSU, but they did the work to get in. They were probably B to B+ students. Given that SDSU gets thousands of applicants from around the world, I think they do hold a standard for what they want in their applicants.
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My comment was based on OOS students, not CA HS students whose AP/honors classes are actually evaluated and registered as counting or not counting toward the cap of 8 additional credits for 10th and 11th grades. Each kid is then looked at from a rigor available to them within their school as it wouldn’t be fair to penalize a kid when they didn’t have access to AP/honors classes. My point was when looking at applicants from out of state and in state they should at least compare the unweighted as one criteria. If they won’t accept a 3.47 GPA unweighted from in state they shouldn’t from out of state either. The UCs are much more selective about which OOS they accept and now that SDSU is so competitive to get into for in state they need to adopt the same as those highly selective UCs.
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I understand where you’re coming from but then again, if a parent hasn’t saved for their children’s education, and they complain about the cost of attending a California State University then that’s on them. The costs are different across-the-board.
There are 23 Cal State University campuses. I can’t believe that a student has been advised by counselors to only apply to Cal Poly Slo, San Diego State, and Long Beach.
If a student only chooses to go to the most exclusive Cal states near beaches, then, of course, they risk being shut out. The university is going to accept a lot of local San Diego County kids.
But there are good instate choices CP-Pomona, Humboldt, Chico, Sac, etc. CAL State San Marcos is 15 to 20 minutes from Carlsbad and Oceanside beaches. They take everybody, but students don’t choose to apply there. There are faculty from San Diego State that teach classes at San Marcos.
So, if those parents on the Facebook pages are complaining that they can’t pay the cost of San Diego campuses, that’s because we have the highest home prices in the nation. Our local taxes are insane and support a number of the universities. There are 22 other campuses, where they could get in without a problem. Per family members Bakersfield has a lot of openings as well as Sacramento State.
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SF State has consistently had openings late into the admissions process.
To see which CSUs are still accepting applications (and for what majors), go to Application Dates & Deadlines | CSU. San Marcos and Humboldt will only accept applications for a couple more days (deadline 1/31/24), but applications at Monterey Bay and San Francisco are open until 3/30/24.
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ou are in SDSU’s local admissions area if you graduate from a high school in San Diego County located south of state route 56 and extending eastward to the Imperial County border line, or if you are from a high school located in Imperial County.
If you graduate from a high school in SDSU’s local admissions area, then you will receive priority consideration during the admission ranking process.
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I love that the CSUs prioritize local kids so that they can decrease cost of college expenses and live at home. My husband went to SJSU and lived at home and that is the only way he would have been able to afford college. I have no issue with the CSUs prioritizing local kids. I only have an issue with them appearing to prioritize out of state kids if they are truly allow them in with lower GPAs/stats than in state kids. I hope that is not the case. My daughter is in CA(not local to SDSU) and was lucky enough to get in during early acceptance. We are grateful!
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My stat was used in this, so I am just clarifying. I go to a highly ranked private school where the average UW GPA is around 3.6 due to its rigor and weighting system. I have also taken many AP, college courses, and rigorous classes where the representation of my performance does not get shown, as my school only does UW, and my classes didn’t get weighted on CSU. So the admissions counselor is able to see the rigor of the courses and how applicants compare to the vast majority at their schools, even if it may appear to be unworthy to you or others from other areas. I truly feel for the In-State applicants and their families, as it seems quite unfair, but taking away from OOS applicants and targeting specific people is also not the way to go about it. I wish everyone luck in this overwhelming process, and I hope everyone gets the outcome they’re looking for.
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@afn, Thank you for clarifying your posted GPA and your HS rigor. This is why individuals cannot make an assumptions just based on the stats posted since there is more to the process especially since a student is evaluated within the context of their HS.
Good luck to you.
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Yeah, very surprised to get admission notice from SDSU as early as 1/5. No other CSUs have sent anything yet.
Congratulations to you! It has made me very sad to see individual student stats pulled and criticized. You deserve your moment to shine.
And btw/ 3.6 UW would be a good gpa at our school as well— somewhere in the range of top 15%. There are so many ways to calculate gpa that our school lists 4 of them. There are no plusses or minuses for our kids, so your 89.4 B in AP Calc/BC as a junior puts you lower than your best friend getting an A in Algebra II. That A in art? Not core, so it doesn’t boost your academic gpa. I could go on and on, but the point is, all schools are different. You obviously worked hard, chose a rigorous path and were admitted to a great school. You should be proud and not feel like you have to justify your admission.
Congrats again!
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My daughter just saw her acceptance in the portal post this morning (has not received an email yet).
CSU Capped weighted: 4.2
A-G courses: 22 I think
UC approved honors/AP/DE: 5 AP
Intended major: criminal justice
Local/Non-local CA resident/OOS/International: Non-local CA resident
Honors College Invite: No
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Curious if anyone knows the percentage of early admits that get into Webers Honors College?
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I agree. We should not belittle others day to shine. There are so many ways to calculate GPA that’s why UC and CSU use their own calculation to equally evaluate others. Art is counted in the CSU and UC gpa as it’s a core course so even if your school doesn’t make it “ academic” CSU/UC will!!!
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Congratulations !
Email and video arrived this morning
In state public high school not in San Diego
CSU GPA: 4.2 taken from A-G matching page of app
Number of courses: 30.5
APS 10th grade: none
APS 11th grade: stats, span lit, env science, govt
APS 12th grade: Lang, Econ, Calc AB, Psych
DE courses (community college) not on transcript: Latin American Studies, Kinesiology, Oceanography
Honors: 1 semester English
Paid work 3 years
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