SAT by Race at the University of Florida

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<p>I finally received the data from the admissions office. I have my own ideas about how to interpret it, but I will just report it. The only thing I do want to clarify- on a previous post, people were flaming me and making statements like affirmative action gives someone with similar stats a “Slight”: advantage. I think it is clear from this hard data that, at least at UF, checking one of the boxes on the race menu determines which separate set of criteria will be used to evaluate your application. In other words, there are 5 or 6 completely criteria sets with respect to quantifiable data and which race you check determines which set will be applied to your application. </p>

<p>University of Florida In State Fall Admits<br>
Breakdowns of First Time in College Students Who Took SAT<br>
2004 - 2006 </p>

<p>Applied (04-06)<br>
Asian SAT Black SAT His SAT White SAT Total SAT
1000, 1262, 1065, 1103, 1732, 1167, 7931, 1239, 12377, 1216
1019, 1262, 916, 1093, 1822, 1186, 7050, 1253, 11705, 1229
1057, 1234, 1000, 1075, 1924, 1174, 7097, 1234, 12160, 1208</p>

<p>Admitted(04-06)<br>
Asian SAT Black SAT Hispanic SAT White SAT Total SAT
670 1326 624 1190 807 1254 4315 1315 6690 1296
678 1327 505 1266 4115 1322 6693 1306
604 1318 548 1176 863 1263 3433 1317 5924 1295</p>

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<p>I’m having difficulty just reading the data–can you separate the data by commas?</p>

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<p>Asian Black Hispanic White Total
Admit % 63.46%, 56.26%, 47.61%, 53.73%, 53.27%
Avg. admit SAT 1324, 1187, 1261, 1318, 1299
SAT varr. Mean 25 -112 -38 19 0</p>

<p>Accepted SAT Range (1994-1996)= 1324(asian)-1187(black) = 137 point spread based on race. </p>

<p>source: boe admissions files<br>
pa.t19.ctlib(fticdemo)</p>

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<p>Apparently, I can’t just cut, paste from Excel…trying to clean it up a bit</p>

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<p>Try to make the data easier to read since I can’t copy paste excel…</p>

<p>Average SAT Score of Applied (04-06)</p>

<p>Asian Black Hisp White Total
SAT SAT SAT SAT SAT
1262 1103 1167 1239 1216
1262 1093 1186 1253 1229
1234 1075 1174 1234 1208</p>

<p>Average SAT Score of Admitted (04-06) </p>

<p>Asian Black Hisp White Total
SAT SAT SAT SAT SAT
1326 1190 1254 1315 1296
1327 1195 1266 1322 1306
1318 1176 1263 1317 1295</p>

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<p>Three Year Average admitted SAT Scores by race (04-06):</p>

<p>Asian Black Hisp White Total
1324 1187 1261 1318 1299</p>

<p>Three year SAT Range (04-06) of UF Admitted Students by race:</p>

<p>1324(Asian SAT) - 1187(Black SAT) = 137 point spread by race.</p>

<p>Using the normdist function in Excel, I estimate that :</p>

<p>A 1324 is ~ the 93’rd percentile of all SAT Test Takers
An 1187 is ~ the 75’th percentile of all SAT Test takers</p>

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<p>Interpret data at your own risk. =)</p>

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<p>This will go well.</p>

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<p>“This will go well.”</p>

<p>???</p>

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<p>Ok? What exactly does this mean?</p>

<p>Is this another saga in your tireless crusade against anything AA? Are you arguing the merits or just complaining.</p>

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<p>Private institutions can do what they like, regardless of whether I agree with them, but it saddens me that many of the public institutions of America discriminate on the basis of race.</p>

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<p>“Is this another saga in your tireless crusade against anything AA? Are you arguing the merits or just complaining.”</p>

<p>I’m reporting data. You are getting aggressive about it.</p>

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<p>Not the UCs, thankfully.</p>

<p>And, this is some good data. Some good data indeed.</p>

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<p>They actually RELEASED this data? Wow…</p>

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<p>It is a bit perplexing why state institutions still practice AA. </p>

<p>But what will you do with this information?</p>

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<p>^^ you cannot make the conclusion that it’s AA. Correlation does not imply causation. The UCs, for example, look at the applicants in their context, and overcoming adversity is seen as a plus for admission. Thus, often those from low socioeconomic backgrounds–underrepresented minorities, quite often–get a boost in admissions, given their accomplishments despite their adversities. It wasn’t their ethnicity–it was their situation.</p>

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<p>Well, the people that benefit from this will be very vocal about it. I actually don’t mind if the gap isn’t too wide.</p>

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<p>Maybe the Black / Asian disparity would be narrower if you could field the athletic teams with Asians.</p>

<p>There are many reasons for the URM advantage , from sports , diversity goals , University marketing or giving the disadvantaged a chance for a better life.</p>

<p>If you think this is unfair , try growing up in the projects and you will see unfair.</p>

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<p>The middle 50% Sat range is 1140-1360
the demographics are:</p>

<p>95% In-state students
5% Out-of-state students
1% Part-time students
59% Women
41% Men
<1% American Indian/Alaskan Native </p>

<p>9% Asian/Pacific Islander
14% Black/Non-Hispanic
15% Hispanic
59% White/Non-Hispanic
<1% Non-Resident Alien
2% Race/ethnicity unreported </p>

<p>Based on your numbers 67% of all asians who apply are accepted</p>

<p>Your point…</p>

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<p>Props to UF for not hiding this data.</p>