<p>Surprisingly, he didn’t come off as cocky to me. In fact, he seemed kind of unintelligent.</p>
<p>I want to know why ETS doesn’t let schools know about confirmed cheating? Suspected cheating, I can see. Also, the ETS guy said they spend $11 million on security. What’s that company worth?</p>
<p>nysmile - yeah, there’s plenty of fault to go around. But none of those students or parents (including his) are going on national tv, showing absolutely no remorse, bragging about how easy it was. Karma may be a ***** but hubris is ugly.</p>
<p>^they have no reason to be on TV. They’ve reaped the rewards for their actions and don’t feel the need to explain their actions to the public.</p>
<p>Their kids are attending college without any negative consequence to their actions. Yet, the test taker is the one being held accountable.</p>
<p>I just watched it and didn’t think he was that cocky. Definitely the part about “saving their lives” but he said he wished he hadn’t started it, and he wished he wouldn’t have continued it. He admitted it was due to greed. He was pretty snooty saying it was easy to fool a cafeteria aid and why should she be proctoring, anyway?</p>
<p>I think the “payers” are every bit as much at fault. I don’t understand why more attention isn’t also paid to them. I felt the same way with Sandusky.</p>
<p>I know nothing about GN, but I’d guess this isn’t as prevalent in rural and less affluent communities. Kids here don’t have that kind of money, and neither do parents. If they did, they would place no priority on getting a high SAT score. My kids’ hs is non-competitive and no one cares where anyone goes to college. Directional u (don’t even need SAT) and cc are just fine with the parents and the school administration.</p>
<p>We live in a rural county, population 10,000. My kids had to show their drivers license, and the proctors would have known 95% of them.</p>
<p>Slightly OT–murderers, rapists, hard core criminals are definitely lodged in county jails, and often for prolonged amounts of time. My county seat has 5,000 people; there are currently 3 convicted murderers in the jail. Two of them have been in for 1.5-3 years. They are there while they await trial, going through appeals, until sentencing, and then until the state prison picks them up. Prisons are vastly overcrowded. S2 was a county jailer the last 1.5 yrs. Trust me, there are very bad people in your local jails.</p>
<p>To me, he came off as very boring. As in, he was great at identifying the rules as he saw them (extracurricular athletics, good test scores) and then “shaping” them to meet his own needs. I wouldn’t be surprised to discover he was the one who needed a bathroom break during the practice drills that he wasn’t good at.</p>
<p>His dismissal of “staff” and “cafeteria aides” as being too stupid to catch him was telling. He’s got all the qualifications of a wall st banker without the brains to be charming when caught.</p>
<p>For perspective: my kids’ SAT scores will attest to the fact that they never paid anyone to take the test for them…or if they did, it was a terrible investment!</p>
<p>@ny smile: What’s your point? This kid’s blameless? I know full well why the paying cheaters did not appear on tv. But this kid did, because he thought he’d garner what - sympathy? I’m just registering my opinion that he didn’t get my sympathy, and that I would question anyone who thought that what he did wasn’t so bad, or that it was ok in comparison to Wall St. crimes. I wouldn’t be able to hold my head up if any of the cheaters involved were my own. But if he then went on tv to excuse it, with no remorse, it would be that much worse. Your mileage obviously varies.</p>
<p>Yes, condescending about the cafeteria aides. I also expected him to be charming, like a con man, but he was so flat, even in talking about his “bidding war.” Just a boring cheater.</p>
<p>I did not watch 60 Mintues. What scores did he get on the SATs for the tests that he was paid to take? What schools did the kids get into with the fraudelent scores?</p>
<p>Most of the scores seemed to be in the 2100s. They didn’t disclose the colleges where the cheaters got in.</p>
<p>My point is that no matter how much one despises what this paid test taker did, it isn’t any worse than what the students (and parents) did when they hired and paid him to cheat.
They get to enjoy the benefits of his actions, yet he is the one taking the fall.
They are all equally culpable.</p>
<p>I agree–don’t see why ALL the student aren’t having consequences, as he has disclosed the names of his “clients.” You can’t cheat for someone unless they want you to.</p>
<p>Here’s a link to his video.
[SAT</a> cheat turned tutor? - YouTube](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpPDQzhXZwY&feature=g-all-u&context=G27b0697FAAAAAAAADAA]SAT”>SAT cheat turned tutor? - YouTube)</p>
<p>^I agree. They should all be expelled from their colleges. That should be enough punishment. It will deter anyone in the future, too.</p>
<p>I can understand the initial premise that ETS didn’t feel that they should be responsible for security or informing colleges of cheating. BUT if they want to be credible and valuable, then they assure the test is believeable and accurate. The ONLY way to do that would be to require strict admission with state/country-issued proof (like a passport or license) ALONG WITH the requirement to colleges that they will be notified if cheating had occurred. Clearly ETS won’t do this without fallout from colleges. I sure hope they do.</p>
<p>Right. It’s going to take pressure from the colleges to see changes made.</p>
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Well, I KNOW my kids didn’t pay this kid to take their SAT. Their scores were better than 2100. And they took them in their own HS.</p>
<p>My kids also took their tests in their own HS, where ALL faculty and proctors knew ALL kids and strictly followed rules. S would also be very upset with a score as low as this guy got! He was scoring better than this guy in middle school.</p>
<p>I wonder how this will affect the the admission process for all students in GNHS. Surely all Universities have caught wind of this story. Any kid with decent SAT/ACT score from this school is bound to raise suspicion, especially since the names of those who did cheat their way aren’t going to be released. I feel bad for the honest kids there who genuinely did well. I would be freaking out if something like this occurred at my school.</p>
<p>Would probably be more of an issue if the kids’ test scores are significantly better than his grades & in the 2100+ range that this guy was supposed to score, PLUS in the area he drew his clients from.</p>
<p>If I were CB, I’d work publicly & hard to get better rules and security in place to help maintain the integrity of my tests. Don’t understand their very lax position to date and think it reflects poorly on them.</p>
<p>The sad thing is that the CB does not have direct control regarding security at the test sites, and cheating is much more wide spread than the GN incident. My sister told us a story about a kid at the HS where she works. He was a marginal student athlete, and was sort of forced by the coach to have him put on an ed plan to exempt him from the mandatory state testing required for graduation. His SAT scores came back, and were significantly higher than his LD would predict. It turned out that that his gf took the test for him at another school where the proctors didn’t know him. He has a gender neutral name, so it went undetected. Because of his ‘good’ SAT scores, he was taken off the ed plan, and now has to pass the state tests.</p>