SATs? How important? Only used for first cut or for more?

<p>is 2260 with 680 in critical reading + 3.993 GPA (one A-) good enough for HYP consideration while in a school of 300 with 5 people having 2300+ SATs and 4.000 GPAs?</p>

<p>In other words, do schools look at applicants at a local level or national level? I come from a competitive public school, so would my standing as number 6 in 300 hurt or benefit me, so to speak?</p>

<p>Does it matter?</p>

<p>To answer your question, I’d say that your score is good enough to be competitive. They look at how you do in the context of your environment. In other words, if your family is affluent and you have third-generation Ivy League parents, then your SAT score will be expected to be higher than someone who is less well-off.</p>

<p>Top CC secret; if you don’t get into an Ivy, your life is over.</p>

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<p>I’m a first generation Asian who was born outside the US. My parents did not go to college in the US, only had a few classes in a very average state college. All of my classmates save the #1 student at my school (in my class) were all born in the US. Doesn’t this hurt my chances if he applies to the same schools as I???</p>

<p>…no (for being born in Asia)
…yes (for having a lower GPA and SAT)</p>

<p>edit: noobcake is entirely correct.</p>

<p>There is nothing to life but Ivies (according to CCers)</p>

<p>But this thread brings up a question I’ve had for a while. How many colleges just look at SATs as a device to cut out candidates they deem to be unviable and then never look at them again? I heard that UChicago does this. I just want to know the prevalence of this practice.</p>

<p>^</p>

<p>This is probably more commonplace than schools like to admit.</p>

<p>I think it is more commonplace as well. A lot of schools say that they view your application holistically. My theory is that they first skim over the applications (including SAT scores). They keep all automatic 2100+, and if they see anything interesting in an application with a score below 2200, they keep you. If you’re not interesting and have below a 2100 they reject you. Then they have a second round where they carefully view the application and that’s when other factors like ECs, recs, etc. play in. The strongest overall get accepted, go to committee, whatever. Then the decisions are made.
I hope I’m completely wrong, and it’s a little more lenient.</p>

<p>I wonder if the minimum you’re talking about is based on a composite out of 2400 score or the minimums for each section out of 800.</p>

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<p>I’ve never quite understood the AI, because it seems to me that using your GPA instead of your class rank almost always bumps up your score a LOT.</p>

<p>unless your class size is of a considerable size (5000+ i think), then it’s equal. Assuming your 1st in class and top GPA.</p>

<p>but it says Good chance, below average, etc… for what school is it for? Certainly not every school is the same…</p>

<p>I think it’s for the Ivies.</p>

<p>But seriously, being ranked in the top 20% compared to having a 4.1ish GPA makes such a huge difference, which really surprises me, considering the rampant grade inflation.</p>

<p>Yea i used my class rank and i received a “Low” But when i use my GPA i am bumped up to a “above average”.</p>

<p>I wish my school didn’t rank.</p>

<p>I didn’t know Cornell was an Ivy before I applied. The same was true about Dartmouth. LOL</p>

<p>But yeah got into both of them.</p>

<p>heh. i think ivies look at more than just numbers. :)</p>

<p>ECs, essays, and especially recs count a lot.</p>

<p>SATs are obviously not just used for the first cut. it’s still a factor in the application and tells something about the applicant’s abilities.</p>