<p>The boys names are revealed in that you tube link. And if you google them, they get a lot of hits. Good for Savannah.</p>
<p>I have to admit I’m glad Savannah is getting some measure of justice now. Maybe not through the legal system, but justice nonetheless.</p>
<p>And of course, for evern Savannah who is willing to go public, there are probably so many who quietly suffer.</p>
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<p>I wonder if any of them suffer even more than they should. Might they think that they cannot get counseling to help them deal with their experience because a judge said they are not allowed to talk about it? And might they be correct?</p>
<p>just a question–but why should the gag order apply to the victim if under law she is not considered a party to the litigation? She is not allowed to participate in negotiating the outcome…and then she is not allowed to discuss it publicly? Or am I misunderstanding this?</p>
<p>Further proof that the deck is stacked against women who report sexual assault…apparently this wasn’t a “real” rape. Listen to what the PROSECUTOR said to the victim (whom he is supposed to be representing).</p>
<p>“After Dietrich initially complained about the plea deal the two teens received, Paul Richwalsky, chief prosecutor in the juvenile court division of the county attorney’s office, told her “get over it and see a therapist. … The jail was for ‘real’ rapists, murderers and robbers,” according to an affidavit released Thursday.”</p>
<p>[Savannah</a> Dietrich abuse case: Teens who assaulted 16-year-old thought it would be ‘funny’ | ksdk.com](<a href=“http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/335973/28/Savannah-Dietrich-abuse-case-Teens-who-assaulted-16-year-old-thought-it-would-be-funny-]Savannah”>http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/335973/28/Savannah-Dietrich-abuse-case-Teens-who-assaulted-16-year-old-thought-it-would-be-funny-)</p>
<p>And we wonder why women don’t come forward. </p>
<p>I am absolutely disgusted beyond words. </p>
<p>But the idea of “real” rape is becoming more prominent. Whatever the **** that means. But I can guarantee you that 90% of the time, “real” rape is going to be defined by men and not the female victim. </p>
<p>Even our politicians are involved in the definition. Welcome to the 1800s.</p>
<p>^^Yes, and according to some, pregnancy as the result of rape is a “gift” that women should accept without equivocation.</p>
<p>And this is from her public Facebook page, posted yesterday. Sounds like the prosecutor NEVER intended to seek justice for her, but only for the “bros” from his alma mater. He should be disbarred.</p>
<p>“Why would someone INSIST on taking your case (it wasn’t assigned to him, he asked for it) just to go easy on the boys? When they broke house arrest even though their excuse was they “didn’t know the conditions of house arrest” (even with 2 highly paid attorney’s who apparently didn’t tell their clients what house arrest was or their conditions) you could of still fought on the grounds that they communicated with each other outside school and sports (we have evidence) but didn’t. Jail was NEVER an option to you in this case. Go behind the my (the victim’s) back to arrange not only a lenient but AN ILLEGAL plea deal… that was also VERY offensive… Telling me to “let it go and move on” “get counseling” outside of court after it was all over. When held in contempt you had no standing on it… Then you tell my public defender handing him the file “She’s not as innocent as you think”. In his affidavit he made SEVERAL derogatory terms about me. Need I remind you this man is still on the case and even though it’s obvious when their deposition hearing is he has not ONCE contacted me to tell me when the deposition date is, which is suppose to be his job. He has not contacted me since they plead guilty. Hmm… I could go on and on about this… But, why would you want to take a case so bad if you’re going to do one of the worst possible job a prosecutor could possible do on a case? Am I the only one seeing red flags?”</p>
<p>I agree, he should be disbarred. What woman in his district is going to feel comfortable coming forward after a sexual assault when the prosecutor has this sort of attitude and is more interested in protecting the sex offenders than the victim. You hear about rape victims being abused again by the judicial system and this is a prime example. I hope this guy is investigated and loses his job.</p>
<p>God, it gets worse and worse…the lawyer for one of the boys, who claims Savannah Dietrich “ruined his life,” also said this, according to the Huffington Post:</p>
<p>"He also compares his client to Todd “legitimate rape” Akin: “I think it’s rather astonishing how the Internet changes everything,” he said. “Look at [Rep. Todd Akin], the politician from Missouri who was on the news a few days ago and made a comment about ‘legitimate rape.’ Those comments have now gone viral and he is ruined. Twenty years ago it would not have happened like this. These things just stream with enormous speed across the whole country.” </p>
<p>Words fail me.</p>
<p>I sure wish this case were getting national attention. Or has it, but I missed it? Surely Nancy Grace would love this one.</p>
<p>as the saying goes: there’s 3 sides to every situation… one person, the other person, and the truth in there somewhere…</p>
<p>^^Not sure what you are saying, hops_scout. The boys pleaded guilty to the sexual assault.</p>
<p>What I’m saying is this young lady has made some significant claims about both these boys and the prosecutors and wrongdoing in court. Has she provided any evidence that this happened or is it all hearsay at this time?</p>
<p>And now she’s launched a social media attack on the whole situation.</p>
<p>And why exactly does she have a public defender if she’s the victim?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, poor Todd Akin. It’s bad enough to be a complete a$$ but so much worse, that in this day and age, everybody knows it in an instant. Damn.</p>
<p>And there are two edges to that particular sword. Not only was this girl raped but her abuse was recorded and spread through the use of media, as well. Can’t feel bad for idiots like Akin and rapists like these boys who have their reputations ruined by the use of technology. They didn’t mind the speed of internet when they wanted to send pics of Samantha to their friends.</p>
<p>It’s definitely getting LOTS of national attention. It’s actually rather astonishing how much it is getting. Changeorg. lets you start a public petition for any cause. The petition in support of Savannah got 100,000 signatures in 24 hours. Savannah is now having to warn people that the folks out there collecting $ for her legal fees are charlatans–she’s not asking for $ and doesn’t know the folks who claim to be collecting it for her. </p>
<p>I think Savannah has the right to tell the world her side of the story, but I’m bothered by the fact that the previously sealed juvenile file on this case compiled by the government has also been made public because a local newspaper filed a motion to make it public. Now, in the particular circumstances of this case, the fact that the attorney for one of the boys said to the Huffington Post and Nightline that all that was involved was “touching” created a compelling justification for releasing the details of what actually happened. (Watch the Nightline segment if you REALLY want to be flabbergasted.) But remember, this guy was the attorney for ONE of the boys. Yet, the files of both boys were made public. </p>
<p>Again, there’s a bigger question here. Should juvenile convictions be made public? Should charges against juveniles be made public? It’s the law in many states that a juvenile offender’s record will be expunged (wiped out like it never happened) if the juvenile stays out of trouble for some set amount of time. Expungement isn’t helpful if the conviction will be available to anyone who googles. If a 15 year old girl shoplifts expensive clothing and gets caught, do we want that to be a matter of public record for the rest of her life? Is there something different about sex offenses? Do we want to put these 2 idiots on the sex offender registry for the rest of their lives for this? Maybe we do…but I think that’s a decision that should be well thought out.</p>
<p>It’s hard to feel sorry for these 2 boys. But there are bigger issues here and chief among them is whether the identities of juvenile defendants should be made public.</p>
<p>And while those boys may have been drinking at the time of the crime (not that it excuses them) I’m guessing they were not drinking every time they pressed the send button on their phone. Every push of that button was further victimization of that girl.</p>
<p>jonri, aren’t there two separate issues then–what the court did in releasing the records, and what Savannah did in naming her attackers? SHE did not release the juvenile records–she only “outed” the boys who assaulted and outed her. And I believe free speech gives her the right to do that.</p>
<p>So in the end I guess what that means is there is no way to protect identities if there is any kind of “leak” of names. And we all know rumors and real news spreads fast with or without the internet.</p>
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<p>Not if it puts their safety at risk…</p>