Savannah Dietrich case

<p>^^But their safety ostensibly was at risk from the minute this happened. Who’s to say she didn’t tell a number of people the next day, before she even brought charges against them? The boys compromised their own safety by doing something that in a lot of situations might lead to some kind of retaliation.</p>

<p>And besides–I haven’t read anything about the little twerps being worried about physical threats against them, only that their chances of playing lacrosse in the Ivies has been ruined. Boo hoo.</p>

<p>So, hops, where do we draw the line? Do we not release the names of ANY sex offenders because something might happen? Or only for those under 18?</p>

<p>Didn’t they put HER safety at risk by doing what they did?</p>

<p>I do think sex crimes should be made public if you’re 16+. You know what you’re doing at that point. I think people have every right to know what happened. I think any woman who might get involved with one of these boys should know what they did. It’s only fair for THEIR safety. However, I also think those records should be expunged officially after a set time of counseling/staying out of trouble/etc. I don’t think they should have to register as sex offenders for life. I do think that’s too harsh. </p>

<p>I do think that these boys made an absolutely horrendous mistake. However, I also think they are young enough to be given proper counseling and guidance to turn their lives around. I am a firm believer in rehabilitation for the young, rather than merely punishment. For these reasons, I don’t think this should follow them forever IF it’s the only time they ever do something.</p>

<p>And no, I don’t think the PERP’s right to privacy/safety should trump the rights of the VICTIM to speak up about what was done to her. EVER.</p>

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<p>The LAW disagrees with you. </p>

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<p>If she is the victim, then why does she have a public DEFENDER? </p>

<p>And since she was accused of contempt, does that make her a PERP?</p>

<p>You’ll notice I’ve not said anything about what the BOYS did as being RIGHT. Do YOU like my use of ALL CAPITAL letters randomly TOO?</p>

<p>She HAD a public defender for the contempt charges, which were dropped. Unlike the charges against the boys who sexually assaulted her, who PLEADED GUILTY and will soon be sentenced.</p>

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<p>A) Laws change.
B) It depends. IIRC, depending on the state, if it’s a felony rape then it could be released as they are treated as an adult in the eyes of the law.</p>

<p>And my use of caps is not random. It’s for emphasis. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>And what Sally said. She had them because there were charges against her. They were dropped. Therefore, no, she is not a perp. Only those convicted/plead guilty are considered perps.</p>

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<p>But were they charged with felony rape?</p>

<p>^ I only said felony rape because I know the laws for felony rapes. I do not know the laws for lesser sex crimes which is why I didn’t mention it.</p>

<p>So if they weren’t charged with felony rape, then your knowledge of said laws is not applicable.</p>

<p>^ That really isn’t the point. I gave my opinion of what I think SHOULD happen. Notice that I said “I think sex crimes SHOULD”. I didn’t mention anything about the legality in my original post.</p>

<p>The Louisville Courier-Journal reported that the boys were charged with first-degree sexual abuse (a felony) and misdemeanor voyeurism.</p>

<p>Still curious about the overriding point you are trying to make.</p>

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<p>Me too…</p>

<p>I think she has a public defender because she was charged with contempt of court for releasing the boys names.</p>

<p>My point is that while she may be a victim in a case of sexual assault, she is not the victim when it comes to releasing the boys names. So the “victim” shouldn’t be getting a pass for doing so.</p>

<p>hops, anyone can accuse anyone of anything unless they are legally restricted from doing so. I could accuse you of stealing my garden gnome or spread a rumor that you were the guy seen streaking across a highway overpass this morning. The charges against Savannah WERE DROPPED. Get over it.</p>

<p>You may not intend this but your comments come off as really insensitive. I don’t think any victim of a sex crime is “getting a pass” in anything related to the incident. In this case, the system has failed her in many ways. What is your opinion of the perps’ behavior? Do you defend them?</p>

<p>She had a defender because they were attempting to prosecute her for outing her rapists. Good for her. It took a lot of courage for her to not kowtow to the good old boy system that put protecting her rapists ahead of justice for her.</p>

<p>And they are rapists. The legal definition for rape is ““The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”” I don’t understand why they weren’t charged with rape (other than the whole the prosecutor is an alumni of the school these creeps go to thing - as is a doctor that wrote a letter to the paper defending them. Makes you wonder what sort of thing they teach at this school - not morals or respect for women apparently).</p>

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<p>As always, there’s more to the story than the story shared. The above is from the OP. What charges were brought against Savannah and her parents?</p>

<p>hops, that comes off as victim blaming. </p>

<p>I don’t really care to debate with you about this so I’ll leave it as that.</p>

<p>Ah… so only females can be victims, huh?</p>

<p>She provided the booze and the location to drink. She got hurt. It’s somebody else’s fault. </p>

<p>She’s allowed to break the law.</p>

<p>Makes sense to me!</p>

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<p>Do NOT put words in my mouth. </p>

<p>How low.</p>

<p>Wow hops, way to be a ****** bag. I guess the message is for the victim to tell a friend who will then out the perps, but she can’t speak up herself?</p>

<p>Hops, I hope you don’t have children, especially girls.</p>