@juillet , excellent post. OP, if you can show your dad some hard facts such as in post 19, it might help your case. But show him data from websites, not just the post above, because you want him to see proof that he can’t argue against.
And my D in fact ended up getting off two waitlists and has finished her first semester at Bates:-).
@juillet Wow, excellent post indeed! You hit all the finer points perfectly, especially the first part. I’m happy you mentioned the third part; that would definitely be a game-changer.
@Lindagaf very true, I’d have to show him the specific websites as opposed to just the blocks of text. And wow, that’s awesome for your daughter! Bates is a great school, I hope she loves it!
To get into the top MBA schools one needs a stellar GMAT or GREs and usually a few years of work experience as well as a very strong LOR before a top MBA school will give a candidate a look.
Hopefully your parents won’t ever bring it up and it won’t be an issue But I do agree with others who said that pro-UNCW arguments like better sports, knowing too many people at Rutgers, involvement in activities at UNCW, being near a beach etc. likely will not be persuasive to your parents. Instead if need be focus on the fact that you are settled in academically, have good relations with professors and students and you don’t want to risk getting thrown off course with a transfer. And yes, if you apply to grad schools they will still want your UNCW transcript so the GPA from there will still be part of the equation down the road.
If need be would you consider agreeing to major in accounting to stay at UNCW? I’m guessing you are taking intro to accounting by now as it should be part of the business core. Do you like it at all? If so, that may be a compromise and give your parents something they want – but of course it is your call. Keep in mind that to be a CPA one needs 150 college credits (a typical bachelors degree is about 120 credits) – some students can get the extra credits with overloading the schedule/AP/summer classes but many accountants (including my son pretty recently) now go on for a one year Masters in Accounting to get the necessary credits. So if you go the CPA route you could also satisfy your parents desire for you to get a Masters degree. And if you do well you should be able to get a job and become independent pretty quickly after your degrees are completed which sounds like it would be a good thing. Just a thought…
@happy1 your first paragraph is totally right. The best I can do is mention to them that I’ve settled into a rhythm at UNCW, and the worst possible thing for my future would be to disrupt/halt that rhythm.
Absolutely I would consider majoring in accounting in order to stay. My dad mentioned it to me last year at some point because accounting majors do make a lot of money, lol. I took the intro class this past summer at my CC, and while it was a lot to learn, I certainly didn’t dislike it. I do like it indeed. My school requires 124 credits for a bachelor’s degree. It also offers a 5-year Masters in Accounting program (4 years of undergrad + 1 year masters). If need be, I would definitely be interested in taking that route. It wouldn’t be an elite MBA, but I’d be getting my Master’s degree, which by itself should be valuable almost regardless of where it comes from.
^^^Also keep in mind that if you go the accounting route (again, you have to decide if it is a path you could be happy with), you could find some one year programs to get a MS in accounting so you don’t necessarily have to stay at your current college. In fact my S went to Fordham undergrad and went to Notre Dame for his MS in Accounting. He loved Fordham and had a direct admit to Fordham’s Masters in Accounting program, but ND is a top 4 program, he had a different experience at a Midwest big time sports school, ND was a great school to interview from and now that he is working he finds that both ND and Fordham alums at the firm look consider him to be a fellow alum which ain’t a bad thing. He had something like 126 credits but we figured he needed 24 of the 30 credits required in the Master’s programs so he may as well get the advanced degree). And if your parents love Rutgers so much you could even see if Rutgers has the one year Masters program if they let you finish your undergrad at UNCW (the MS is just 2 semesters-- and being up north for MS may even help you to get a job in the area.
IMO, it is all about creating options that will help you stay at UNCW for your undergrad…
I’m willing to bet that your spirit and commitment to UNCW has been noticed by people who matter there and that these people don’t want to lose you. Maybe talk to your department head or a senior professor or even a dean and see if they can offer ideas on ways to impress your Dad.
To add to what @Otterma said as well as others, MBA programs generally want you to have some work experience. Work experience often utilizes connections forged in university. I’m not saying you won’t make those in Rutgers, but you already have people who know you and can vouch for you and help you get internships, jobs, etc
@happy1 great suggestions! That’s right, it is all about finding ways to keep me where I am. But I honestly don’t think I want any part of Rutgers, even for grad school. Lol
@Otterma I sure do hope that’s the case! Pretty much every student I know always comments on the fact that I have a LOT of school spirit!!
@SouthFloridaMom9 hahaha!! Maybe I should But I have a feeling that it will work out, honestly. My parents are strict, but they’re reasonable when I sit down and talk to them like a mature adult. Besides, like I said a page ago, I always kept them abreast of what was happening in the classroom this semester. Still surprised they haven’t brought it up, though. Long may it continue lol
I suggest that you contact the Rutgers business school to obtain information about the requirements for transfers. This document explains the minimum requirements for internal transfers from Camden and Newark campuses. There may be a similar document that explains what is necessary for transfers from other universities. If you could provide solid data about what would be required, if a transfer would slow your progress towards degree, etc., perhaps they might find that persuasive. Good luck!
I’m back on campus for the spring semester, and I somehow made it through the entire month-long break without either of my parents asking me about my grades once. Honestly, pretty surprised that they never asked me, but I would be lying to you if I said I wasn’t at least a bit relieved. Is that a significant indicator of how my future will be determined at season’s end? Only time will tell.
Very excited to start the new semester, though. More on my story thread.
Good luck to you @LBad96. You have been given a lot of good advice and I would be sad to see you leave UNC-W as I know how much you love it there. I hope it works out for you!
I think I would be spending less time on your ECs and more time getting your GPA up…you want a good GPA for jobs/grad school anyway!
Tips:
GO TO CLASS, BUY THE BOOK, READ THE CHAPTERS, AND DO THE HOMEWORK!
Go to Professor’s office hours early in the semester and Ask this question: “I know this is a really difficult class-- what are some of the common mistakes students make and how can I avoid them?”
If you have problems with the homework, go to Prof’s office hours. If they have any “help sessions” or “study sessions” or “recitations” or any thing extra, go to them.
Form a study group with other kids in your dorm/class.
Don’t do the minimum…for STEM classes do extra problems. You can buy books that just have problems for calculus or physics or whatever. Watch videos on line about the topic you are studying.
Go to the writing center if you need help with papers/math center for math problems (if they have them)
If things still are not going well, get a tutor.
Read this book: How to Become a Straight-A Student: The Unconventional Strategies Real College Students Use to Score High While Studying Less by Cal Newport. It helps you with things like time management and how to figure out what to write about for a paper, etc.
If you feel you need to withdraw from a class, talk to your advisor as to which one might be the best …you may do better when you have less classes to focus on. But some classes may be pre-reqs and will mess your sequence of classes up.
For tests that you didn’t do well on, can you evaluate what went wrong? Did you never read that topic? Did you not do the homework for it? Do you kind of remember it but forgot what to do? Then next time change the way you study…there may be a study skill center at your college.
How much time outside of class do you spend studying/doing homework? It is generally expected that for each hour in class, you spend 2-3 outside doing homework. Treat this like a full time job.
At first, don’t spend too much time other things rather than school work. (sports, partying, rushing fraternities/sororities, video gaming etc etc)
If you run into any social/health/family troubles (you are sick, your parents are sick, someone died, broke up with boy/girlfriend, suddenly depressed/anxiety etcetc) then immediately go to the counseling center and talk to them. Talk to the dean of students about coordinating your classes…e.g. sometimes you can take a medical withdrawal. Or you could withdraw from a particular class to free up tim for the others. Sometimes you can take an incomplete if you are doing well and mostly finished the semester and suddenly get pneumonia/in a car accident (happened to me)…you can heal and take the final first thing the next semester. But talk to your adviser about that too.
At the beginning of the semester, read the syllabus for each class. It tells you what you will be doing and when tests/HW/papers are due. Put all of that in your calendar. The professor may remind you of things, but it is all there for you to see so take initiative and look at it.
Make sure you understand how to use your online class system…Login to it, read what there is for your classes, know how to upload assignments (if that is what the prof wants).
If you get an assignment…make sure to read the instructions and do all the tasks on the assignment. Look at the rubric and make sure you have covered everything.
If you are not sure what to do, go EARLY to the professors office hours…not the day before the assignment is due.
Spring rush doesn’t officially start till late this month, so at least for now that’s one less time consumer to worry about. I start my job tomorrow right after my last class, and I’m excited for that!!