<p>Accepted, OOS. How soon we will receive any scholarship information?</p>

<p>Good question. I must say, however, that I haven't seen anything to suggest any ongoing scholarship consideration is being done -- just regular fin aid processes. I was thinking about calling to find out, but figured they'd probably be inundated today. </p>

<p>Anyone else have info about this?</p>

<p>This is posted on their scholarship website </p>

<p>The</a> Office of Scholarships & Student Aid at UNC-Chapel Hill</p>

<p>"3. When will I be notified if I will be receiving a merit scholarship from UNC? </p>

<p>If you have applied for the early admission deadline, you will be notified by January 15th if you are being considered for a merit scholarship. (This does not include the Morehead and Robertson Scholarships. Please see their respective websites for detailed information about those programs.) If you applied during the second deadline (regular admission), you will be notified by March 15th if you are being considered for a merit scholarship. </p>

<p>Students from each deadline who are considered for merit scholarships will be invited to campus for a "Scholar Day". The early admission scholar day is held in late January and the regular admission scholar day is held in late March. Students are then notified following the scholar day of their merit scholarship offer."</p>

<p>Has anyone been invited to a "Scholar Day" in late March? Does anyone know anything about this?</p>

<p>Thanks for the info. Reading the website it appears competition for scholarships will be extremely tough. Even National Merit Finalists don't get much additional consideration.</p>


<p>Competition for scholarships is extremely high and because most who do get awards do indeed matriculate, UNC doesn't tend to "over offer" monies to the extent that other schools do.</p>

<p>Unlike many other lower ranked public universities, UNC doesn't have to hold out a carrot of BIG monies to NMS Finalists in order for them to attend. UNC does however stack the money they give ($1000 per year) on top of any other awards unlike many other schools that reduce their FA award by the NMS amount.</p>

<p>Every little bit helps.</p>

<p>"Has anyone been invited to a "Scholar Day" in late March? Does anyone know anything about this?"</p>

<p>I received my invitation to Scholarship Day about two or three weeks ago. The activities are scheduled for March 27th between 10:00 and 3:00. </p>

<p>I'm sure we'll be told about the university in general, the honors program, various scholarships, etc. There will also be small group discussions lead by a faculty member/scholarship committee member, after which invitees will respond to these discussions in a short essay. I'm guessing the Office of Scholarships and Student Aid has a general idea of the offers it will make before Scholarship Day, but will take into consideration the discussions and essays when making its final decision.</p>

<p>From what I can gather online and from friends who've been there in the past, everyone who attends is offered some level of merit scholarship, as well as a spot in the honors program (this is supposed to be a nice little surprise, so if you know someone who's going, don't spoil it!).</p>

<p>I don't know enough to say whether or not they are still sending out invitations, but again, I did get mine in the mail several weeks ago. The invitation also reads, "As one of only 122 students selected from among 9,584 regular-notification applicants..." This implies that the scholarship recipients have already been chosen, and likely already notified.</p>

<p>I don't know for sure about the invitation to the Honors Program so don't get your hopes up on that issue, but everyone there will have been offered some type of scholarship.</p>

<p>It doesn't make a lot of sense that the school would offer scholarships to kids who don't qualify for a spot in the honors program, and indeed a friend of mine (who went to this years EA Scholarship Day) confirmed that everyone there is admitted as an honors student.</p>

<p>However, it could very well be different for the regular decision Scholarship Day, and I would hate to spread misinformation, so it's not a bad idea to err on the side of caution and keep hopes at a reasonable level.</p>

<p>There are only about 200 spots in the Honors Program.</p>

<p>When we attended a similar event in 2004 there were far more than 200 there and not everyone had been offered scholarships.....just trying to make sure that someone isn't disappointed, that's all.</p>

<p>Was the event that you went to in 2004 Scholarship day, or something else (Explore Carolina, perhaps)?</p>

<p>I'm just a little confused because you first said everyone there would have been offered some type of merit scholarship... then you said not everyone at the event you attended had been offered a scholarship.</p>

<p>University</a> of North Carolina at Chapel Hill -</p>

<p>Here's some info about Scholarship Day/the honors program, directly from an admissions counselor. This should answer at least a few questions with 100% certainty.</p>

<p>i attended EA scholarship day.
everyone got at least 1,500 i think...
instate ranges from 1,500 to the 8,000 carolina scholarship
out of state ranges to full room, board and tuition.</p>

<p>at scholarship day you have a group discussion with a professor and an admissions counselor, have lunch, some academic panels, then you write an essay. then they give you a tour of campus.. </p>

<p>at the end of scholarship day, they told us that everyone there would be welcomed into the honors program and the letter came a week later</p>

<p>Thanks for the update, and congrats on the scholarship. Hope you'll be a Tar Heel next year!</p>

<p>I think I remember reading somewhere on this site that an OOS student who receives a scholarship is then charged tuition as an instate student? Could that be right????</p>

<p>And...if so, would a National Merit Finalist award from UNC be considered as a scholarship to bring the OOS tuition down to an instate level?</p>

<p>RoselawnMom: Yes, any OOS student who receives a merit or athletic scholarship is considered in-state for tuition purposes. Consequently, most all these scholarships then become full-freight for these OOS students.</p>

<p>The downside is that-- NO-- this does not apply to the NMF award. If the student put UNC-CH as his/her first choice school on NM info, then he/she will receive $1K or $2K. This will be added to any scholarship, regardless of the merit scholarship amount, though.</p>

<p>Janieblue, I think you have to go a little further as I do not believe that all merit or athletic scholarships qualify the student to be considered in-state for tuition purposes. I understand the rule to be that if a merit scholarship is awarded for the equivelent of full tuition, room and board (and maybe books, I am not sure on that one), i.e. a "full ride", then the student is considered to be in-state for all purposes, including tuition. </p>

<p>While most of the "named" merit awards ganted to OSS students would seem to qualify, some merit based academic scholarships, as well as some athletic scholarships, do not meet this criteria. The Coker-Fox scholarship is an example, where the OOS award is up to $10,000. As you mentioned, National Merit would be another example. </p>

<p>I do not have personal information as to how UNC awards athletic scholarships, but many schools award 1/2 or some other fractional scholarship to some athletes, particularly in minor sports where the number of scholarships that can be awarded is limited by NCAA rules. For instance, a school can award no more than the equivelent of 11.7 baseball scholarships or 12.6. lacrosse scholarships. These normally are divided among a number of athletes.</p>

<p>"However, not all students who eventually receive University-awarded scholarships are invited to participate in Scholarship Day." -- off the website blog (url posted by earlier poster)</p>

<p>how many of these scholarships do not require Scholarship Day? When exactly does notification of this come? does it come with admissions letter or separate? Are these smaller scholarships?</p>

<p>so basically, there is stil hope at getting some kind of merit money?</p>

<p>All Merit Scholarships do not automatically qualify OOS as in-state for tuition purposes. Only the Morehead, Robertson, Carolina, Davie and Pogue do and there are still differences between what exactly they provide. The Morehead for example also includes a stipend to cover books, and expenses which could be applied to travel to and from the university.</p>

<p>From the UNC Website:</p>

<p>Types of Merit-Based Scholarships available through the Office of Scholarships and Student Aid:</p>

<p>Carolina Scholars Awards Program represents the most academically competitive of scholarships sponsored by the University. In addition to superior academic achievement, self-direction and motivation for learning are the chief criteria for selection. The program provides recipients with faculty mentors, leadership experience, and other academic enrichment opportunities. Recipients from North Carolina receive renewable awards of$7,500 per year; those from out-of-state will receive an award equivalent to the cost of tuition, fees, room and board.</p>

<p>Pogue Scholarships place special emphasis on minority applicants who, in addition to solid academic performance and strong leadership potential, demonstrate an abiding commitment to their local communities and embrace diversity as a value. Competition for this award is now open to North Carolina and out-of-state students. A separate application is required to apply for the Pogue. To be considered for the Pogue, the deadline for N. C. residents to apply to UNC-Chapel Hill is November 1 and the deadline for submitting the Pogue application is December 5. The deadline for out-of-state residents to apply to UNC-Chapel Hill is January 15, but out-of-state residents must submit the Pogue application by January 5. Finalists are invited to Chapel Hill in February for a two-day visit and interview. The Pogue Scholarship provides a renewable award of $7,500 for N.C. recipients and an amount covering the cost of tuition, fees, room and board for non-resident recipients.</p>

<p>William Richardson Davie Scholarships provide renewable awards to students who exhibit high academic achievement and potential for leadership at the University. For N.C. recipients, these competitive scholarships provide a$5,000 award. Out-of-state recipients receive the equivalent of tuition, fees, room and board.</p>

<p>Old Well Scholarships provide renewable awards of at least $2,500 to students from North Carolina who come to the University with an exemplary academic record. Additional criteria for these awards may include county of residence and high school attended.</p>

<p>College Fellows Scholarships provide renewable awards of $2,500 to high-achieving students from North Carolina.</p>

<p>College-Sponsored National Merit Awards are annual awards of $1,000 (or $2,000 in the case of substantial financial need) to National Merit finalists who have not been offered another type of National Merit award and have notified the National Merit Scholarship Corporation that UNC-Chapel Hill is their first college choice. Recipients of National Merit’s one-time$2,500 Merit Scholarship will be eligible to receive the annual $1,000 college-sponsored award after their freshman year.</p>

<p>tyr: Well, this is just one reason folks in NC do not like this legislation and want to see it repealed.</p>

<p>You are absolutely correct that those merit or athletic scholarship awardees considered for in-state tuition were <em>supposed</em> to be (as conceived) only for those scholarships that were already full-freight. That would have included only the Robertson and the Morehead scholarships. </p>

<p>However, because of some loophole in the way the legislation was written, many of those scholarships that were never full-freight, for either in-state or OOS students, suddenly became so-- (but only for OOS students) at least on paper-- <em>after</em> this legislation was passed. Carolina Scholars became full-freight by default, I guess you could say. Since it was $15K for OOS initially, once the OOS student became in-state for tuition purposes, that $15K ultimately ended up covering everything, not just tuition-- hence, "full-freight." I do not know that either the Pogue or Davie, for the OOS student, was ever that much-- but since this legislation, it's now suddenly "full-freight." Again, that's only for the OOS student, not for the in-state student who receives those. In fact, for the in-state student who receives the Davie, that award is $5K. For the OOS student? Again, "full-freight." A lot of us think there's an inequity in there somewhere.</p>

<p>Honestly, I knew of no merit scholarship given to OOS students where this wasn't the case-- until reading your post. (Obviously, NM is different.) I am very happy to read this, though, and to understand now that not every scholarship endowment took advantage of this ridiculous loophole.</p>

<p>As an aside, a few senators are now working on having the athletic scholarships removed from this legislation. I don't know what the status is right now, nor how successful they will ultimately be in repealing it.</p>

<p>After a quick search, I found this news release published September 2005, which lists the various merit scholarships and amounts. By the amounts they quote here, this was written before this legislation was passed, but I thought that it went into effect for the Fall 2005 entering class, though not sure now.
UNC</a> News release -- Donors make possible more than $950,000 in merit scholarships to 149 UNC freshmen</p>

<p>While this legislation did not "grandfather" the previous OOS awardees who are still attending UNC (so it's not full-freight for them), I have seen nothing that suggests that some of these other scholarships (like the Coker-Fox) did not suddenly become "full-freight" for OOS students, too. I do hope that's the case, but I'd really like to see more current information to support that. If anybody has that, can you post it? Thanks.</p>

<p>After looking at that 2005 press release of scholarships, you can see that neither the Davie was never more than $12,000 for an OOS student, which would have not covered everything-- but it did become full-freight. The Pogue had always been, before this legislation was passed, only for in-state students, and it was (and still is, I believe) $7500 for them. Suddenly, since the legislation was passed, it's open to OOS students now, and it is "full-freight" for them.</p>

<p>So you can see why I'm not as confident that these others aren't now "full-freight," too.</p>