Some of those students could be replaced by kids from the waiting list.
ETA: Too slow- @Mwfan1921 beat me to it.
But they can’t replace incoming sophomores, juniors, and seniors who would take a semester off.
I get it. It could become what’s the least money colleges can lose.
Unless, of course, that’s a tragic failure.
I actually think many schools will take transfers very late into the summer this year (but of course just incoming 2nd or 3rd years).
Not sure how a cruise line can pick an arbitrary date to start sailing again…and I don’t think it says anything about colleges also opening.
I know it’s not this thread, but I just want to say WOW about the cruise lines. You couldn’t pay me enough to go on one before Covid is vanquished.
What I have been thinking would be a great help for college reopening decisions, particularly the latter sentence:
I love this post, Socaldad. Perspective, folks! Perspective!
I read that cruise bookings are UP over last year. (Aghast and amazed.)
Not sure what you are trying to say here, lots of places get major amounts of tourists.
@sylvan8798 Not as much as Hawaii. And there, a much greater proportion of people at any given place at any given time are tourists.
There are lots of students quarantined in cities and rural communities that really don’t have access to luxuries, basic supervision and nutrition too. It’s no cakewalk.
Yes, for those of us fortunate to offer our families a very doable sah situation it is one thing. To those of us who have funds to make decisions about sah vs working- it’s one side of this pandemic. To pay for a lease we don’t use or not. These are not the experience of the majority. There are so many students who live in the same dorms as our children and remote learning is not as easy at seems. Completely unstable and difficult neighborhoods, even if a loving home. Travel back and forth for mini semesters and last minute is not realistic.
It’s really hard on millions and millions of others. Really hard.
Also, breaking a lease or not paying in the Boston area student market is an automatic referral to a credit agency and a report to your credit bureau. It can follow you.
I just hope we can have compassion for the less fortunate as well.
Hawaii does get a lot of tourists, but so do American cities like Miami.
(Miami’s population is about 1/3 that of Hawaii)
In any case I don’t think any place can really self-isolate on a large scale without extreme measures like those we’re engaging in now.
Oregon State still has 700 students on campus. They’ve had no coronavirus outbreaks, although Oregon has had relatively few cases.
But, I hope that schools are communicating with Oregon State (and other schools that have many students on campus), so that they can learn what has and hasn’t worked wrt social distancing, meal time, etc.
It would be a lost opportunity to not build on what some schools have already learned over the last two months.
I heard something interesting from a college administrator at an elite institution. They said they’re concerned for the well-being and mental health of all their students, but while you’d think the students most at risk would be those from challenging home settings such as low income households, those kids had to be extremely resilient and resourceful to get to their college. Some of the better-resourced students are now facing a major life challenge for the first time and they’re really struggling.
@Sue22 That is very interesting. Makes some sense.
I do think there is a scrappiness factor that helps in tough situations.
However I do believe that students with more difficult at home scenarios will suffer in terms of grades and classes. They’ll handle it fine, mentally, but suffer academically. Same as k-12.
Those of us born in the projects learn ‘social distancing’ at an early age…
Rice is starting to announce their plans for fall. Apparently a letter was sent to the staff and an article about it was written about it in the school newspaper. A lot of details aren’t included and I’ll be curious to see what is sent out to the kids/parents. I assume we’ll see something very soon.
As of right now they are planning to come back as scheduled in the fall. The semester is going to be shortened. It sounds like regular classes will be over by Thanksgiving break with online finals happening early December. All classes will be held both remotely and in person. No large gatherings. They have plans for contact tracing, precautionary isolation for those exposed and protocols for testing - but no details given yet. There was also no mention of masks or other plans for social distancing, but I suspect that will be coming later.
They are also going to be more flexible in regards to providing both semester and yearlong deferrals, especially for international students.
I listened to a town hall with the president of my son’s university today. University of North Texas, 39k students, freshman live on campus, very limited dorm space for anyone else. S has already signed a lease for an off campus apartment for next year as have many students,. Lots of commuter students as well. I’ve been very impressed with the approach they’ve taken and the communications we have received.
They never closed the dorms. Most students left (including my son) but he said today they had about 700 students stay and that it’s been a good trial run for what things could look like in fall. ( no on campus students have come down with Covid, FWIW).
UNT had announced last week that they plan to be back on campus in the fall, but that was as carefully worded as most that have been posted here. Things won’t be the same. Sports may be played with more local competition (Less travel) and without in person crowds. Nothing is finalized. They are looking at creative ways of using space to allow for better distancing. I missed the beginning of the town hall but it sounded like there will be a mix of in person and remote classes. They’re allowing some grad students on campus soon for work (research) that can’t be done remotely. We should have more details from the departments in the next two weeks.
Guessing this is where many large state universities are at in their planning.