School in the 2020-2021 Academic Year & Coronavirus (Part 1)

I know many teachers at all levels, and all agree that the joy of teaching is in the interaction. If you think that teachers are enjoying being on zoom for hours, you are mistaken.

You would feel personal if your life is on the line, wouldn’t you? It always helps if we all put ourselves in their shoes.

Are many of those happening still? My daughter attends a rural sleep away camp for kids with celiac disease. It’s very small and out of the way, and wasn’t supposed to happen until mid/end of August. It’s been canceled as of this weekend. All three of the dance summer intensives she was planning to attend have been canceled too. That’s camps in four states all across the country- only anecdotal still, but I am gonna surprised if many sleep away camps go on.

They don’t need any sympathy but don’t bash them because they happen to work from home. It’s not like they went into the field because they predicted the pandemic.

I’m guessing the Kawasaki-like disease is putting paid to any opening plans.

Most have been cancelled , but there are a few that will be running . I know of one in North Carolina.

The CDC recs seem clear to me: masks anywhere, anytime that social distancing cannot be accomplished.

So that means running on a narrow trail where you can’t pass without 6’ of distance. That means walking downtown NYC or any big city urban core, or even small town Main Street if a bunch of peeps are outside and one can’t pass with SD. Or, working in an office, factory…

Exactly. I was the one who asked the question (based on something someone else said)…if students in a classroom can socially distance, they don’t need masks (per the CDC).

Even though it is looking more and more that masks plus social distancing are better than either alone.

The many disconnects between the CDC, the science (which granted, is mixed with lots of unknowns), and/or the various state and county rules, are what is leading people to question, and in some cases, not understand what they are supposed to do.

Looks like Florida public universities are going to try and open campuses this fall. Will know more next month, but this plan seems sound and promising.

https://www.flbog.edu/2020/05/18/state-university-system-preparing-to-re-open-campuses-in-the-fall/?fbclid=IwAR0EuBO5h45mxugmtEk7wDA1WhVyL0xEYkzKBWTopiZu3s75U9g6iVUDaoo

Well, what do you expect when the US population has been divided through negative partisanship and alignment of political identity with other (unchangeable) identity aspects (e.g. race and ethnicity) to the point that political opponents are the enemy rather than just people you may disagree with on some issues? COVID-19 and the response to it is increasingly becoming a partisan political argument, so divided we fall…

Effective social distancing may differ in various situations.

Which is riskier if one person is contagious:

A. Sitting 6 feet away from another person indoors (e.g. in a classroom or restaurant).
B. Walking by someone else outdoors on the street, passing 6 feet away from the other person for a few seconds.

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Faculty who are overseeing research experiments in physical laboratories and advising graduate students and who need grants to keep all that going probably have economic incentive to return to campus.

“there is not a lot of sympathy for how hard professors and teachers have it teaching online”

It’s not sympathy, it’s your over-generalization that all college professors are just in it for the money.

Ithaca College will start Fall semester on October 5th.

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/05/ithaca-college-announces-it-wont-bring-students-back-to-campus-until-october.html

Don’t know if this is the right thread for this. Thread header seems to indicate yes but if this is the wrong place mea culpa.

The online teaching situation is dependent upon the individual. Both at the college level and K-12 level some put a lot into it and spending much more time than they would if they were teaching in person. Some simply are not and are doing the minimum.

Some professors/instructors/teachers desperately want to go back in the fall and some do not.

Maye we could just leave it at that?

As much as I hope they can do that, if you read the link, the Chancellor does not say that the physical campuses will all be open. He talks about developing “frameworks” for “re-opening,” and it also sounds as if each university in the system will have its own individual plan for reopening, depending on its unique circumstances, and it won’t be presented to the Board of Governors until June 23. Also, it’s important to note that when universities talk about being “open”, they don’t necessarily mean business as usual pre-Covid. They mean that students can sign up and take classes. I hate to be a party pooper but I don’t see anything in this link that can be interpreted as a promise to reopen the campuses as they were.

Just as with Northeastern, they are being cagey while trying to sound optimistic.

@Mwfan1921 wrote:

This has been true in downstate New York and central Connecticut for at least a month now; Large gatherings, indoors or outdoors, mask and SD at the same time. My neighbors and I were just kidding about it the other day as we were spacing ourselves around a roof deck. We wore masks until eating and drinking began in earnest at which point I set my phone to ring after an hour and began taking my leave after that.

Amen, to that Brother!

Not if you have any understanding of what “online teaching” means and what it takes to move a class or course online.

Everyone who works has various levels of economic incentives to return to work. They also have various degrees of health incentives to remain sheltered. There is no one size fits all. In the end, people will make decisions based on the options they have in front of them. Places of work may open, but individuals choose if they want to return.

Geez, seems like everyone today got out of the wrong side of the bed today ??. We are supposed to not be a debate society on here. Make a point and counter and move on. Or the thread will be shut down like other threads were.

As far as masks and the fall I am actually encouraged. I live in Chicago in an area with lots of college students from places like DePaul, Loyola and Northwestern. Daily I see sweatshirts from just about every college out there (or it seems that way… Lol). Most of the college and even high school kids are wearing masks. Every store I had to go into mandates it. When in groups just walking they are wearing masks etc. I think we “might” have to give them a little bit of credit here. On campus there will be rules
Entering a building, wear a mask. In large lecture halls with plenty of spacing. Wear it going in and possibly take it off when in the lecture. Put it back on when leaving since you won’t be spaced out so well. When meeting with professors they most likely will have those acrylic shields you see at banks etc and can be placed on the desk to separate the professor from the student. Both will wear masks just as my patients do when they come into my office.

They will want kids to limit the amount of people they are hanging with. No large groups. But can still walk tok class with friends. Sports is anyone’s guess.

There will be hybrid, no question about it for large groups /classes.

Groups over a certain amount everyone wears face coverings
Smaller groups that can space out Not sure but maybe not.

There will be some peer pressure to wear the masks, I think. In my area it’s just well, normal now. Not really a big deal. The supermarket have toilet paper etc now since people get it they don’t have to hoard. It’s only May. Hopefully things will be slightly better in the fall.