@ucbalumnus – I bet those WFH companies don’t have intel saying they are at risk of losing 1/3 of their customers.
I think all costs, including tuition, will go up. It is costing schools a lot more to produce their product. The budgets they hammered out last year are totally out of whack now.
In my grocery store, hardware store, restaurants, all prices have gone up. It costs a lot more to produce the products, especially since the labor costs have gone up. Businesses are having to install plexiglass, supple PPE to the employees (who now get hazard pay), hire cleaning people. Restaurants may be saving money on dishwashers but now have much higher paper good products.
Once again, our college age kids will almost certainly not die if they get covid-19. However they will have a non-negligible chance of killing someone else if they get covid-19, a chance that will be bigger if they decide they don’t want to bother with masks and social distancing because it’s not their own lives at risk.
@ucbalumnus Also, it goes without saying that all people living in nursing homes are at a much, much higher risk of dying due to COVID-19 than students living in college dorms are.
yes, I misquoted… a tech error & apologised to you and the person who did… sorry again, fretfulmom!
My kid was a poor kid. She didn’t check into a hotel to quarantine because she couldn’t have afforded to, but the school didn’t pick up the tab either. Didn’t even make sure she got the food that she’d already paid for (or was paid for by her scholarships). In fact, it was the opposite. If she’d had to take a semester off, she would have lost her scholarships because they were for 8 consecutive semesters.
If there wasn’t covid but another disease where the student needed to be quarantined or needed medical care, the school would not pay for your child to receive care. If there was a huge flu outbreak because the vaccine missed the strain, the schools wouldn’t provide care. My cousin had a mental breakdown and needed to be hospitalized; Bowdoin sent her home and didn’t provide online courses, extensions for work, or follow up on her. Syracuse sent home dozens of student with the mumps two years ago.
Someone mentioned grad students as easier to start back. Yale Divinity School has put out it’s plan for the fall. It will start as usual. Students have 3 options. Come on and start building community, even if classes are on-line, stay home for fall and do all online which they recognize might have a financial benefit to some and might be only option for international students at this time, or defer. The dean does mention that the intention is to get back to in person as soon as possible and that online classes will not be the norm going forward.
The Div school does have it’s own dedicated housing (apts) for a good percentage of students. I don’t know how this reflects the thinking of the other professional schools or Yale as whole. Classes there are open to graduate students from other schools and even a few upperclassmen.
The ER doctors I know would say there are a lot of false assumptions on this thread. They will be sending their kids back to the dorms this fall. Some posters assume that if the kids aren’t on campus, the support staff are safe. The doctors do not support that assumption, noting there are a million other ways the staff could get exposed, and frankly everyone is going to get exposed regardless of whether kids attend school in September.
@twoinanddone I can’t Imagine anyone needing to quarantine for the flu, honestly, so I don’t see it as an even comparison. My kid will be in a dorm like everyone else at her school, so there is no off campus apartment to be punted to, away from the eyes of the school. In normal times and normal sicknesses, she would have to take care of herself unless she needed a hospital, but I can’t imagine what she’d get- besides covid- that would stop her from eating and require her to go somewhere separate to quarantine. I also can’t actually imagine her school not checking up on her if she were really sick in regular times- her dean emails her just to see how she liked a speaker, or to help her find a campus job, or just to ask how she’s doing. It would be very outside the norm for the administration to not help her with her teachers/meals/schoolwork if she were ill. We’ve seen it with her friends this past year who had mono or the flu.
Just to be clear, I think it’s different to require a quarantine and then bill for it than to let a sick kid stay wherever they already live unless they choose not to.
Yes, well, there are various opinions about various issues even in the medical community. I know a doctor who prescribed hydroxichloroquine to his overweight, some might say morbidly obese older patient. Apparently as a covid preventative. Let’s just say that decision doesn’t have the approbation of the majority of those in the medical field.
I don’t know how I missed that chart! Thanks for posting the link. And WOW.
Just judging by videos coming in from places where bars, etc. have opened, the answer is yes, flocking.
I’ve heard the same from a Pediatrician and infectious disease doc. I know people are trying to be helpful, but for those claiming to know what will happen will disease spread please state your professional credentials to lend credence to what you are saying. It appears we have alot of armchair Docs or google researching people on here. If you’re a Doc or a HC worker please put in your comment.
Why would I believe a pediatrician would be an expert in epidemiology?
And it’s not as if we have a “do nothing” approach to them. Cars continue to be made with more and more safety features, highways with better safer designs, traffic laws studied and revised. Power plants and cars get better pollution controls (well until recently, maybe). We fight all these problems.
Yes, they are at higher risk of dying, but the risk of spreading to other residents and staff is similar. Of course, in a college dorm, it is usually the staff that are higher risk of dying than the residents, the reverse of a nursing home.
To protect others whom residential college students interact with (faculty and staff who may be high risk, others in the local community who may be high risk), would you want college students to variolate themselves with SARS-CoV-2 during the summer (when the load on hospitals is likely to be lower, the students are near their home hospitals if they need medical care, and it is less inconvenient when any sickness is “scheduled” at a time outside of the normal college terms when one may have to go into the quarantine dorm, miss classes, etc. if one gets sick), so that they can have “herd immunity” when they move into the dorms during the fall? Of course, there is some risk of death or long term injury from COVID-19, although it is lower for most college students than the general public. But if the goal is to protect others at the college and surrounding community, would it be worth doing, especially if one takes the viewpoint that getting infected before a vaccine is certain?
Thank you! I was catching up 
There are other fields of study which address this sort of thing besides doctors and health care workers (who may not, in fact, have expertise in these areas).
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Very frustrating. I am actually surprised. How about having then use just a face shield? There seems to be more room. Many on Esty are very reasonably priced for lab work etc. Just a suggestion.