@friday28 what on earth are you talking about? Studies are showing that only about 2-3 %, at most 5 % of people so far have antibodies, and NO ONE KNOWS yet (yes I’m shouting, for a reason) whether they can still get sick or not, whether they can still spread the virus or not, and if it actually turns out they can’t, how long it will hold.
Know anyone immune against the common cold? That’s the four Coronaviruses we know so far. This one might be different, or it might not. WE DO NOT KNOW.
It is certainly possible that like the common cold, an effective vaccine is not possible in the foreseeable future.
—In some fields (particularly in STEM) youth is your prime learning years (hence the reason we do not subscribe to the “your undergraduate institution doesn’t matter if you go to grad school” mantra)—
This is true to performing music, too. Those online classes are the last, last solution, shouldn’t be the simplest solution at most and even elite music conservatories. But taking a gap year due to no tuition discount for online semester(s) would hurt not only students and schools, it would hurt whole entire performing art industries for long term.
Wow - quite a response. Yes, Cuomos new briefing today stated a study of 1300 hundred people where 20% had antibodies and another study of a jail in Boston where they tested 400 inmates showed 200 of them had antibodies where a small percent had actually showed symptoms. Ive read other studies as well just can’t located the figures immediately.
Do you think with the 2.5 million people in the world who have tested positive already we would have heard about a reinfection or transmission?
@tigerie the percentages you are quoting are nationwide… not hot spots. Which was what I was talking about.
How would students taking a gap year hurt the entire industry for years to come? Graduating students who are not well trained seems far more problematic for the industry, as well as for the career of those students.
Let’s say that the entire HS class of 2020 takes a gap year. What happens to the HS class of 2021?
Interview with OSU President Drake in Ohio State’s student newspaper…
“* Ohio State could begin transitioning faculty and staff back on campus in the next few weeks with a decision about fall semester made by the end of June, University President Michael V. Drake said in an interview with The Lantern Thursday.
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Modifications for fall semester will likely include more online and hybrid classes and students wearing masks on campus, as well as other social distancing strategies, Drake said.
Whether business as usual will resume in the fall likely depends on what the data on COVID-19 cases and projections say in mid-May, Drake said. The current trends point toward being able to have faculty, staff and some students involved in lab research back on campus by the end of June, he said.
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He added that the university has been communicating with Wuhan University — Ohio State’s sister university — about how it has been transitioning students back on campus.
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Wuhan University plans to test students for COVID-19 as they return to campus and monitor temperatures, and Drake said Ohio State is also considering these options. *”
D’s school today sent an email to students saying that they plan to be on campus in fall and expect to have classes in person, etc. But they’ll let you know in August if it’s changed. I must be a cynic, but I just think they’re trying to make students feel everything will be back to normal for fall so they’ll come back or enroll. They’ve already committed to allowing deferrals and leaves of absence to students who request them, so this feels like a move to just keep the requests down. I don’t think any schools should be making predictions yet as I don’t think they have the ability to make informed- and certainly not ironclad- decisions at this point for September. There was not a single mention of tests, masks, or social distancing in the email either. It was too sunny imo for the current storm.
Southern New Hampshire University Sets Out to Reimagine Campus-Based Learning, Offers Full Tuition Scholarships for Incoming Freshmen
https://www.snhu.edu/about-us/newsroom/2020/04/full-tuition-scholarships-for-incoming-freshmen
“* In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, the economic downturn, and the great uncertainty facing higher education, SNHU is accelerating its work to develop new campus-based models that will bring campus tuition down to $10,000 per year by 2021, a 61 percent reduction from its current rate.
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As SNHU works with faculty on developing these new models and pathways for an on-campus college experience through the 2020-21 academic year, SNHU is offering a one-time “Innovation Scholarship” to all incoming campus freshmen which will cover 100 percent of first-year tuition. Incoming freshmen will take their courses online while living on campus and participating in all campus clubs, activities, athletics, and other experiences. Starting in 2021, it is anticipated that these students will continue in a new model at the $10,000 per year tuition rate.*”
The latest antibody study findings in NYC, if confirmed, would be a major game changer.
4junior2—
I think that schools / institutions should be stable as well as teaching professionals. Many of them are leading performing musicians in the current music industry which got completely stopped throughout the world. Without schools being in healthy enough financial situation to hire those teaching professionals to continue providing music trainings / programs in next few years to several years during this crisis, it would be a loss for new generation musicians. There are many young musicians at their prime time learning who can get through this crisis without in-person training but with school’s support / commitment and students’ own determination. And I believe that music schools will provide better online educations than this semester if they need to decide to go online as the last solution.
Gap year is pretty common in music performance major. Those musicians usually practice, take lessons, perform and compete at every opportunity they have during a gap year. I wonder if there will be many performance and/or competition opportunities in a year or two.
Financial matters, even more now than before how much to invest into higher education, especially for us who lost an income. And like Music Performance Major, it is very hard to decide…
Franciscan University has announced it will cover all remaining tuition costs after scholarships and grants for fall semester:
“In response to the unprecedented economic fallout of the COVID-19 pandemic, Franciscan University of Steubenville will cover the remainder of tuition costs, after scholarships and grants have been applied, for the fall 2020 semester for all incoming full-time undergraduate students enrolled in its on-campus programs.”
There are thousands of talented and trained performing arts graduates who cannot get a foothold due to the oversupply of them in relation to available jobs.
The industry isn’t ever going to be worrying about not having enough talent.
It’s problem is that the economic model for the live performance sector is reliant on thousands of people being in a crowded space. Social distancing on broadway, for example, is financially impossible. A list talent like Hugh Jackman may have their upcoming projects ( the music man ) dropped.
Google NYC Antibody Study:
(Reuters) - New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said on Thursday a preliminary survey found that nearly 14% tested positive for antibodies against the novel coronavirus, suggesting that as many as 2.7 million New Yorkers may have been infected with the disease.
The big difference between the city and upstate was interesting.
Yes. In New York City, the epicenter of the pandemic in the U.S., 21% of the people tested had antibodies.
Hmmm, the numbers seem to be declining. ?
@momzilla2D I believe 14% was state-wide; 20% NYC. I’ll have to play with the math, but that is an amazing number of people who were either asymptomatic or never were able to obtain a test.
From the NYT article:
“In New York City, about 21 percent tested positive for coronavirus antibodies during the state survey. The rate was about 17 percent on Long Island, nearly 12 percent in Westchester and Rockland Counties and less than 4 percent in the rest of the state.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/nyregion/coronavirus-antibodies-test-ny.html