All of the UCs are rolling out statements. They are all the same format, starting with a paragraph or two about remote learning, then a paragraph or two about why tuition isn’t changing and then details about housing.
UCLA
A governor of California said today that California may start next school year in July if coronavirus is under control to catch up learning loss. He means K-12 schools. So those UCs, especially starting later in mid September would have more time to observe some cases / possible second wave to make final decisions.
UC Davis
Ugh. I wonder when CSU’s will come out with their plans/proposals?
That would kind of mess with summer internships, summer DE classes, etc. But, let’s see what comes…
A couple of the CSUs have come out with statements - CSUF and SJSU have both said they expect fall to at least begin online.
For those unfamiliar with California schools, most CSU’s as well as Berkeley and UC Merced are on the semester system. Cal Poly SLO and the rest of the UCs are on the quarter system which doesn’t begin until the last week in September. FWIW, Stanford is also on the quarter system and I believe they were one of the first schools to say they might not start school until 2021.
So only UCs announced so far about “on-campus housing” which is the the biggest challenge for social distance?
@JeJeJe This has been updated pretty regularly. https://www.chronicle.com/article/Here-s-a-List-of-Colleges-/248626
SDSU has a nightmare on its hands bc its housing is super dense and the surrounding community is also fairly dense and doesn’t really have capacity to absorb more students if the university de-densifies its own housing.
Radford University is the third university to fully confirm in-person classes for the fall. None have fully confirmed distance learning yet, though a handful have said they are leaning in that direction.
@twogirls Gov. Cuomo is doing a great job and has shown great leadership during this pandemic. He has a well thought out plan for upstate and downstate, with upstate opening first.
He had no choice but to close the entire state…too much back and forth.
Not true…NYC people traveled in huge numbers during the first 3-4 weeks of this pandemic. The traveling has already happened. Cuomo did nothing to stop the travel when it would have made the most difference. NYS is a vast and varied state with much of it being nothing like NYC with very small amounts of CV. Now many people can not earn a living because he is treating the entire state like downstate. I am far form the metro area and yesterday I called to get a mammogram. Closed. Yet I could go to the Walmart 100 feet from the office where I usually get a mammogram. So far, no separate plan.
But for the sake of this discussion it was believed that somehow college openings would be different throughout the state. I actually believe one decision will be made for the entire SUNY system.
Speaking as someone who lives in MA, we have to drive through New York State to get anywhere out of New England. If school starts up in states in the south and the Midwest, New Englanders will be on the road driving through New York to get to school. I wonder how Cuomo intends to handle that. Is he going to close the high ways to through traffic?
Car travel by a family who have been living together and who drive straight from home to college and back without detours or unnecessary stops shouldn’t pose a covid-19 spreading risk. I am presuming that the gas stations in new york state have an effective social distancing protocol in place at the moment. For those who need an overnight break, maybe campsite use could be promoted over hotels/motels ?
The NYS Thruway has remained open through the worst of the pandemic. Why would the governor close the roads 6 months after it? The plan is to start reopening the state in a way that protects people, so in Sept. NYS should be more open, not less.
Of course people traveling could spread virus, by touching the gas pump, eating in restaurants, and staying at hotels.
This is not as big a risk as all of the college students who live off campus who will be moving into their rentals in the late summer, whether school is online or not.
The state of New York has never restricted any travel through the state. A few other states did (mostly southern states). Hotels and motels are also not ordered to be closed in NYS either, unlike in a few other states. If you’re concerned about touching the gas pumps, maybe you should try drive through NJ (all gas stations are full service) or stop by Costco gas stations (all pump handles are cleaned after each use).
gas pump handles can be cleaned by detergent wipes between uses. That works in hospitals.
That is why NY & surrounding states are being treated as a region instead of individual states. Cuomo knows there is no separating NY from CT or NJ.
My new worry is where my kids will find housing in the fall, if their schools need reduce density in the dorms. How will they decide who gets the limited available space? My older D is planning to be in her sorority house in the fall. In a triple, dorm-like room. Will they also kick some people out of the sorority house to reduce density? How can we even plan for that?
Very good article in today’s Inside Higher Ed about students not returning to college. This, unfort., could be one way colleges reduce density in dorms. 