http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/12/us/arizona-high-school-shooting/index.html
It was “breaking news” on CNN. Weapon found near the bodies… At this point, is is being treated as an isolated incident, not as a “school shooting.” The tragedy happened before the classes were to begin, and there are no indications (per police) that there was anyone else but the two girls involved in this. Still very sad.
Kids and guns. Such a great idea.
It has the making of a double suicide, given that they aren’t looking for anyone. My gut feeling is being two teenage girls, that is the mostly likely thing, rather than murder/suicide, that tends to be more what a boy would do.
I’d also guess double suicide… based on nothing more than a gut feeling. I’m really, really hoping that it wasn’t a case of a couple who felt bullied and/or like they would never be accepted together.
Suicide is just so common in the (especially young) Queer community that that is often instantly what I think of in these types of cases.
Too many guns, too many tragedies.
@romanigypsyeyes:
I agree totally, and while I am not a ‘ban the guns’ type of person, at the very least I would want to know how the gun in question was gotten, and why they had access to the weapon. While there is a major problem with guns and suicide in general (in part because it is one of the easiest, quickest ways to do it, unlike other methods), it is especially dangerous where kids, teenagers in particular, with their shifting moods, to have access to them. I would hope, but doubt, that questions will be asked about how they got access to the gun, if the gun was owned by a family member if there were real accountability in this country they would be charged, but I doubt it, it will just be rolled off as ‘a trafic accident’.
I am in Phoenix right now watching the news. It was a murder-suicide. The two sophomore girls had been a couple until 2 days ago. I don’t think AZ even requires permits to carry guns.
Looks like I was half right. I didn’t want to be at all right. Ugh
let me rephrase, if I may. there are grassroots efforts under way to help raise awareness and work with communities to help end this kind of violence. if you care to help, seek them out, they will welcome your participation. 
Assuming you mean open carry, they don’t require permit. AZ does require concealed carry.
Most states allow open carry without a permit, and some of the states (such as SC) may be surprising to some.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry_in_the_United_States
Another school shooting. This time here in Ohio. I have no words.
http://www.wlwt.com/news/report-of-2-people-shot-at-madison-high-school/38252402
I don’t know if anyone saw it, but the dean of the O of Texas school of architecture left and went to U of P, in part because Texas passed a law where people can carry concealed weapons on the U of T campus, and the school can’t stop them or pass rules restricting it. The dean is no anti gun lobbyist or the like, he grew up hunting, is familiar with guns, has cops and Marines in the family and so forth, but basically said that mixing guns with the volatility that can come with college, the pressure and so forth, with young people trying to find themselves, and it isn’t a good mix in his opinion.
I really am beginning to wonder if the pro gun people live in this fantasy world of the old west (as they see it), where the gun was the old equalized, the good guy always shot the bad guy, and so forth. They must not have seen a film series they made us watch in school, with Gary Cooper as the host, as they wiped away a lot of the mythology of the old west, like often the “good guy” (like Wyatt Earp) were not necessarily so good, the good guys often got blown away by the bad guys, and a there were a lot of deaths by shootout or worse, range wars over grazing and water, all kinds of things.
I think what bothers me the most is that there is no middle ground, that the pro gun people are promoting an agenda where they basically want the wild west, and among other things, it is shutting down those wanting to balance out gun rights with restrictions that make sense…and it is basically making those who want compromise who are more anti gun into absolutists as well. By all statistical counts the number of incidents like this is increasing (not surprising, given the kind of economic and social anxiety that is out there), yet the answer seems to be ‘more guns in public space’ rather than trying to figure out a solution.
Fortunately, no one was killed today. I believe three had shrapnel injuries, and one was shot. This was a 14 yr old shooter.
at the rate of approx 85 pr day killed by firearm, where approx 50 pr day are suicides by firearm, saying “no one was killed today” sadly might need revision