I agree, although it’s very much an urban school, with no campus to speak of. OP said “near urban center,” so just noting in case a true city campus is not what they’re looking for.
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I think you might have written this to reply to my comment about George Washington and not to U Miami, though I might be mistaken about that.
But to comment about GW and being so urban, that was a bias I had before we visited (and I attended Georgetown - so I was v confident in my bias). But I learned at our visit that GW, while certainly v urban, is a lot less so than, say, NYU. The reason is bc the city blocks where GW is based are ALL GW buildings, rather than interspersed among non-university buildings, like NYU.
There’s also a very cute quad between some of the buildings and a v nice student center.
I have no skin in the game — my son didn’t end up applying bc other schools came through first — but it was such a nice surprise for me. And for him, although he would have been fine in a v urban environment.
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Speaking just for myself, GW is not what I would usually consider a relatively strong humanities college. Using that same NCES College Navigator tool, in the latest set it is 28 (of 2936) English (0.95%), 39 History (1.3%).
William & Mary was again much higher–but admittedly also more selective.
That said, this is in that zone of what compromises to make.
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Ahhhhh, okay. I figured it might just have been a jab at the Ivy.
It was in response to GW. I agree—it’s not NYU (in part because DC and NYC are very different cities in so many ways), but I don’t think it would satisfy someone looking for a more traditional campus experience. Which OP’s kid might not be seeking, in which case I agree that GW would be a great addition to the list.
The Egghead Eight are members of the University Athletic Association. That athletic conference prioritizes academics over athletics, hence the amusing name. All of the schools are members of the prestigious Association of American Universities.
The Egghead Eight are:
Brandeis
Carnegie Mellon
Case Western Reserve
Emory
NYU
UChicago
Univ of Rochester
WashU St Louis
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Yes and I think Hopkins used to be on there too. When they were the Nerdy Nine.
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Wake and Richmond are around 20 percent in recent years.
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If you are visiting Georgetown you might also check out George Washington University and American University in DC.
If you are visiting Tufts and Wellesley you might also look at Boston University, Boston College, Northeastern, and Brandeis, though the latter may be a bit small.
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All good schools, but I wouldn’t call most of these targets.
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Would she like Tulane? I know it’s an EA/ED or bust situation, but I think it could be a good one to explore (sunny, social, midsized, great town, great academics). Good friends have had good results there—both their kids accepted in EA round, with similar or slightly lower scores than your D, with great merit to boot. One chose Duke but liked Tulane a lot, the other is deciding this year.
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I would be concerned with using schools with a 20 percent acceptance rate as a target, even with your daughters stats. Also, no mention of rigor, ECs or class rank (schools will know this, even if a high school does not rank due to the profile sent in with the transcript). Any school with an acceptance rate below 20% is looking for much more than grades and test scores.
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With this criteria I don’t see schools in the Northeast or Midwest being a viable option
So here are some Options
University of Miami, University of Florida, Florida State, Wake Forest, UCSD, UCSB, University of Georgia OOS falls in your range, UT Austin while meeting rates for acceptance OOS is about 10%
If a little further North to Virginia William and Mary is an option
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Agree with this. If OP’s kid gets into UCLA, Cal, or even UCSD/UCSB – and with her stats I’d say she has as strong a chance as any average excellent student, even w/out taking that stellar SAT into account – I’d have a tough time making a case to spend a lot more sending her to Cleveland or Rochester or Pittsburgh, given daylight issues.
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I will suggest University Alabama now that selectivity isn’t the focused upon criteria. Near a small city and honors college has 6,000 kids. If NMF super cheap and it’s not how much you can spend but how much you want to spend. Given the 80% acceptance rate it’s the perfect safety and keep in mind the acceptance and financial safety is the most important application.
Good luck.
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ASU is selective, but much less so than many of the colleges focused on these forums. 3.0 HS GPA or 1180 SAT or 24 ACT means admission to the campus, though some majors may have higher requirements.
As the parent, do you have any cost constraints on the student’s college choice?
University of Hawaii Manoa may be in a good location for avoiding SAD.
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Georgetown (11-12% acceptance rate) and Tufts are not targets for anyone; don’t know enough re Wellesley.
So the OP is now considering places like ASU and Kalamazoo which open the door to many many other colleges.
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One thing to note is that some majors are very broad, so smaller departments may not have faculty and upper level course offerings in all subareas that may be of interest. History and math are examples here.
Some other majors like physics may be less popular, so upper level course offerings may be infrequent due to low demand at smaller departments.
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