University of Rochester is a fine school but not sure Rochester (with long gloomy winters) would make sense for someone with seasonal affective disorder. Same goes for Cleveland (Case Western)
As others have mentioned Scripps or Pitzer might make sense if you consider the total size of the consortium. A number of the UCs might make sense. Loyola Marymount in LA?
Yes I agree with you. I actually think there are other schools that were recommended that are similar.
It might be better for this student to attend school in the south.
Let me rephrase - initial request was 20-30% admittance. ASU is 90%.
Barrett obviously isn’t and this is the case at many schools.
I mentioned College of Charleston yesterday because I know it and outside of selectivity, it meets all the other criteria including one I’m not familiar with but have read a lot about on a few recent threads - weather/sunshine. Its admit rate is 76%.
It also has a Honors College - more selective.
But it has the Charleston Fellows and International Scholars as a small and more competitive part of Honors - which is nourishment for the top of the top students.
Again - for those who say I always bring this up - yea it’s because I know it. I don’t know what U Del or Illinois have although I’d assume they too have. So OP should check each school for additional enrichment opportunities. By this I mean and it’s not on OPs list nor should it be but Alabama has Randall Research and Blount Scholars. So things like that - that would put an elite student ( if this student is) at an even higher level than Honors if of interest. And don’t forget - Honors at each school is different. Check the offerings. My son applied to some but not others as they didn’t meet his interest. I’ve read similar stories on here - so any special college within a college or special program - don’t simply enroll because it’s a special program but ensure it meets the student’s need.
What does ASU or any other public they might look at have - beyond Honors - that’s what I’d look at ?
My point on selectivity was acceptance percentage - which I personally am not a fan of for school determination.
But that’s what I was referencing. Not ‘automatic entry’ requirements.
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Actually the subject title says 20-30% admission rate.
I would suggest the OP look at other features of a college beside their %age of admissions.
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There is so much more to selecting a college than the rank or %age of acceptance. I really hope this OP is looking beyond those two criteria.
I will add, there are plenty of fine colleges that accept higher %ages of students. If they want more suggestions…I hope they ask.
The OP said her DD wanted to be able to “get lost” in some classes, not have classes with 10 students. While that may not be avoidable in some upper level courses for certain majors, it’s less likely to be avoidable in the honors program of a small to mid-sized school. That may make Barrett attractive for that reason.
Just catching up with this thread after being tagged by @DadOfJerseyGirl. My top two concerns in reading through the posts have already been addressed…meaning 1) the locations of schools that were in areas that were unlikely to be favorable for someone with SAD and 2) the number of very difficult admits when the OP was looking for targets (and, in reading further down the thread, possibly safeties like ASU).
Of the schools mentioned so far, William & Mary and U. of Miami struck particular bells. Tulane as an EA applicant (and explaining to the admissions officer why they just can’t ED, as the financial package will come into play…even if it’s merit aid-based only). U. of South Carolina’s honors college would also be worth checking out. U. of Florida and U. of Georgia if the rank of USNWR confers a desired status.
Of the schools that would be a definite reach, I agree with looking at Rice and Emory and perhaps Vanderbilt, too.
If Tulane’s an option, your D may also want to check out Loyola New Orleans which is literally right next door. They allow students to take eat on each other’s campuses and I think they can also take classes at the other university, etc.
I’m surprised that nobody has mentioned Trinity University in Texas yet. It’s a tad bit smaller than the desired size (about 2500 undergrads), but it’s also located in San Antonio, a city of about 1.4 million folks. It had a 31% admit rate for the entering class of 2022 with about 3.6% of its graduating seniors with a first major in English and about 3.6% of its graduating seniors with a first major in history (per College Navigator).
Other schools your D may want to consider (most of which have been mentioned) include:
Also, if you’re planning a visit to D.C., in addition to considering American and GW, I’d also have her look into Howard. It’s an HBCU (which includes 3% of students identifying as Asian) that might actually have a feel that I think could work for your D. If interested in Howard, @ChangeTheGame is a great source of info.
*Note: Schools bolded were schools that I didn’t see mentioned earlier in the thread (but I could have potentially missed).
Lots of great recommendations here How critical is the SAD issue because I note that both Brown and Princeton are in areas where that is liable to be an issue. Like everything with college admissions these days there are going to be trade offs whether that’s size, location or prestige. Unfortunately many of the more prestigious options are not well located for kids with SAD. Putting geography at the forefront, how about Davidson or Richmond?
I would think that the acceptance rate for Georgetown could be lower if it employs the test optional and common app.
Yes, but they will never do the separate app so long as current senior team is there because it’s their way of managing yield and only getting applicants with a very high chance of accepting their offer (those willing to put in the time and effort to fill out the separate application). On the scores, I also suspect they won’t do because they really believe in them as predictors of performance and base their decisions heavily on GPA and scores. I was told by an associate dean of admissions that to them yield/fit are a priority and they are happy with the acceptance rate where it has been. They do recognize that it would be in mid to low single digits but don’t care because they have a top brand and don’t need to build one based on application maximization strategies.
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Oh good point - that’s interesting with the weather patterns and not something I would have thought of thank you so much!
Oh good point - that’s interesting with the weather patterns and not something I would have thought of thank you so much!
Super helpful - thank you so much!
@thumper1 - thank you! I think I’d like to focus on more of the target vs likely/safety schools?
Well…these were my suggestions:
In your range, how about Vassar, Skidmore, Sarah Lawrence, Connecticut College?
ED is a possibility (and we feel fortunate that we’re in a financial situation to do so) but she’d have to LOVE the school and right now I feel like we haven’t found one she really loves yet - we leave for our Boston area tour in a couple weeks so I’m hoping some of those schools might pique her interest!
@thumper1 - I think for mental health purposes, she’d need to be in climates that have more sunshine than cloud cover (cold and sunny is fine) so that’s probably a non-negotiable but otherwise, I think she’d be willing to explore a little?
Yes - she got 1520 on PSAT so I imagine she’s be a finalist.