Science Ambition? Princeton Scientist On Global Warming

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<p>The attached is must reading for anyone who wants to be properly informed about this critical subject, but especially for those considering an academic or career path in environmental science. With the current economy, an individual’s educational spending (dollars and time) must be cautiously managed. Full information should help science majors make careful choices about the EC’s, internships, colleges, majors and fields they wish to pursue. </p>

<p>As you will read from the attached, rather than being a cause of global warming, many scientists believe that rising CO2 levels are beneficial. Below is a link to the statement of William Happer before the U.S. Senate Environment & Public Works Committee. Happer is the Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics at Princeton University. At least one Nobel laureate, Buchanan, and many hundreds of highly credentialed scientists are of similar opinion.

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<p><a href=“http://www.heartland.org/custom/semod_policybot/pdf/24772.pdf[/url]”>http://www.heartland.org/custom/semod_policybot/pdf/24772.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>its about time.</p>

<p>man-induced “climate change” is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated upon the American public, and the world as a whole.</p>

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<p>Frankly, I am not sure what to believe. I am very interested in reading about both sides of the issue. </p>

<p>There are so many students gearing up for majors and careers in environmental science, and investing most of what they have in a particular direction. At the very least, being open-minded about global warming seems like common sense. The availability of many jobs in the future (and the existence of markets for certain products) relies on the truth about whatever is (or isn’t) going on.</p>

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<p>With issues like these, it’s really hard to know what to believe. Just like there are brilliant economists with Ph.D’s who do research, write books, etc, who support or are against Obama’s stimulus plan, there are brilliant scientists with doctorates who conduct research who believe in climate change or don’t believe in climate change.</p>

<p>Whether or not the earth is warming isn’t debatable, it’s a matter of fact - the earth is either getting warmer, or it isnt. Most scientists agree it is. The question is WHY - is it human induced or a natural cyclical process? Is it a cause for alarm? Should we be taking precautionary measures in case it is a cause for alarm and human-induced?</p>

<p>Don’t ask me, I’m an Econ major :slight_smile: But based on what I’ve learned/heard/read about the issue, I really have come to no conclusion. I do recycle, and I don’t drive because I spend most of my time in Manhattan, so I’m not some gas-guzzling Hummer driver - but I don’t know if I believe in Climate change or not.</p>

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<p>I do not know what to believe anymore. Should I believe that global warming is caused by overemission of CO2 or is it a process? But what will happen to the world due to the rising sea level? I am quite confused. Since I plan on being an ecologist or environmental scientist, I could research on this.</p>

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<p>I believe none of it. I have had that pov since the beginning and Il keep it. When temperatures are not in direct correlation to solar flares, come talk to me. </p>

<p>Hey but Al gore wants you to feel guilty and send him your money to but his made up carbon credits.</p>

<p>Indulgences.</p>

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<p>Time until Al Gore fallacy shows up: 6 posts</p>

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<p>SpideyGirl,</p>

<p>Atomic, molecular, and optical physics has nothing to do with atmospheric and oceanic sciences. Next time you want to post something disputing climate change, post it from someone who works in the field. You’re gonna have some trouble though because those that do work in the field don’t dispute it.</p>

<p>[BEYOND</a> THE IVORY TOWER: The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change – Oreskes 306 (5702): 1686 – Science](<a href=“http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686]BEYOND”>http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686)</p>

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<p>Dr. Horse,</p>

<p>As you can see in the graph below, temperatures have been rising for about 150 years.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn11639/dn11639-2_808.jpg[/url]”>http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn11639/dn11639-2_808.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Now, solar cycles last only 11 years. There is no way you can blame a cycle that lasts 11 years on something that has been happening for 150.</p>

<p>Nonetheless, studies have been done to research the effective of radiative forcing on the climate. As expected, all have concluded that is has little to no effect.</p>

<p>[Solar</a> cycle length, greenhouse forcing and global climate](<a href=“http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v360/n6402/abs/360328a0.html]Solar”>Solar cycle length, greenhouse forcing and global climate | Nature)</p>

<p>[ScienceDirect</a> - Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics : Solar cycle length hypothesis appears to support the ipcc on global warming](<a href=“http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6VHB-3W78JH7-2&_user=10&_coverDate=12%2F31%2F1998&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=dfcb4068948d75ffeacde9e6ba2c8c0e]ScienceDirect”>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6VHB-3W78JH7-2&_user=10&_coverDate=12%2F31%2F1998&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=dfcb4068948d75ffeacde9e6ba2c8c0e)</p>

<p>[Solar</a> cycle length and 20th century Northern Hemisphere warming: Revisited](<a href=“http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1999GeoRL..26.2469D]Solar”>Solar cycle length and 20th Century northern hemisphere warming: Revisited - NASA/ADS)</p>

<p>[A</a> review of the solar cycle length estimates](<a href=“http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2005.../2005GL023621.shtml]A”>http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2005.../2005GL023621.shtml)</p>

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<p>I understand thats its really easy to use blogs and conspiracy websites to formulate your arguments, but in science conclusions are made based on research. Unfortunately for the deniers, no research exists that contradicts the current consensus on climate change.</p>

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<p>He forgot to include his membership in the Flat Earth Society!</p>

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<p>I heard a new argument that Jupiter and Neptune are warming also, which seems to make since with the solar activity argument.</p>