Score Choice

<p>If a student took the ACT, the SAT 1, and multiple SAT 2 subject tests, is it possible to only
send ACT and subject test results if the college states that it does not honor score choice?
If a student performs must better on the ACT why should they need to send SAT 1 results at all?</p>

<p>There is no reason to send SAT I if the ACT is better. But I don't know if you can send SAT II only - would that be considered using score choice?</p>

<p>I just sent some SAT results to a school S was interested in and you could pick and choose what test results (including just SAT 2) to send.</p>

<p>My son will be a college freshman this fall. He sent only his ACT score and his SAT II scores. None of the schools he applied asked him to send the SAT I. Some of the schools did indicate they would need SAT I scores for placement after acceptance. He just went to his orientation and he brought his SAT I scores with him, but I think they used the section scores from the ACT as well, so for his school it probably wasn't necessary.</p>

<p>Did any of the schools that your son applied to specifically say that they dud not honor score choice. Let's
take Cornell Engineering for example. I believe an applicant need to submit:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Sat 1 results oe ACT results and also</p></li>
<li><p>Results of a math and a
science sat 2</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Cornell does not honor score
choice. If a student has much higher act results than sat 1 results, it seems unfair that they would need to submit the sat 1 results when really all they are required to submit are the sat 2 results.</p>

<p>He applied to Yale. I believe Yale asked for the ACT plus writing or the SAT I plus subject tests. He sent the ACT and the subject tests. They never told him there was anything wrong with his application and did interview with them. If you aren't sure, just call the admissions office.</p>

<p>I believe that Yale has the toughest Score Choice policy. They require that all students
submit the results of ALL tests (SAT 1, SAT2s, and even ACT) for every test date. My son was eliminating Yale from his list for this reason. He felt this policy was unreasonable and
unfairly discriminated against potential engineering students like him who performed much better on ACT and Subject tests than on SAT 1.</p>

<p>When schools describe their SAT Score Choice Policy they are vague and inconsistent. Their policies need to be written more precisely as:</p>

<ol>
<li>An overall SAT Score Choice Policy. This would include both all SAT 1 and SAT 2 subject tests or</li>
<li>An SAT 1 Score Choice Policy. This would not include SAT 2 subject tests. </li>
</ol>

<p>Schools need to be clearer on this issue. I am not sure that schools realize that depending on which policy that have, top performing students interested in pursuing
engineering may chose not to apply to certain schools. A lot of strong engineering students perform better on the ACT and Policy 1 above disadvantages these students.</p>

<p>I think you are wrong about Yale. You can just submit the ACT. I don't remember exactly how it was worded last year. It does look like they want you to send in all SAT scores if you choose to send in any, but you can just send the ACT and skip the SAT subject score. My son did his own apps, but I know he sent Yale his ACT score. </p>

<p>The following is from the Yale website for this year:</p>

<p>Important Instructions on Test Score Reporting
What test results should I report?</p>

<p>Yale requires results from all of the SAT I and SAT II tests or all of the ACT tests you have taken. If you choose to fulfill our testing requirement with SAT scores, then it is not necessary to send any scores from the ACT, even if you have taken the ACT. And if you choose to fulfill the requirement using the ACT, you do not need to send us any SAT scores, unless you wish. </p>

<p>However, and this is important, if you elect to use the SAT scores, you must report all scores from all SAT exams (both SAT I and SAT II) that you have taken. If you elect to use ACT scores, you must report all scores from all ACT exams you have taken. And if you choose to use a combination of SAT and ACT results, we require that you report all scores from both agencies. </p>

<p>Standardized</a> Testing | Application to Yale College | Freshmen | Office of Undergraduate Admissions</p>

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He applied to Yale. I believe Yale asked for the ACT plus writing or the SAT I plus subject tests. He sent the ACT and the subject tests. They never told him there was anything wrong with his application and did interview with them.

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<p>Currently, Y is pretty clear about their policy of absolutely no score choice:</p>

<p>Instructions</a> for Reporting Your Scores | Application to Yale College | Freshmen | Office of Undergraduate Admissions</p>

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If I have taken the SAT I and at least two SAT II Subject tests, and the ACT with writing, must I report all scores from both testing agencies? Can I send only the SAT test scores or only the ACT test scores provided that I fulfill Yale’s testing requirement?</p>

<p>As long as you fulfill our testing requirement with a complete set of score reports from one agency (either the SAT or the ACT), you are not required to report scores from both agencies. You can choose either to report all of your SAT results (both SAT I and SAT II) or all of your ACT results, according to the directions above. If you want us to have scores from both the SAT and the ACT, you must report all scores from both tests, again using the directions for each agency that we have provided above.

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<p>I think the reason nobody at Y said anything to your son is because they don't know whether a student used score choice or not, that's between the student and the CB, Y just sees the scores that were sent. I'm not sure when they posted this statement on their website to clarify their policy. I know there has been a lot of discussion this past year on the Y forum about how exactly score choice was going to work. I agree that many colleges are much too fuzzy in their descriptions of what they require for test reporting.</p>

<p>It's just my opinion, but I don't think that the no score choice at Y is aimed at weeding out candidates that didn't do as well on one test as they did on the another as much as it is to see when students are taking tests many times in order to increase their scores.</p>

<p>It really crabbed me when schools that only wanted two subject test scores seemed to want all the subject test scores anyway. My son bombed one subject test but had great scores on three different ones. I didn't see any reason any college needed to know about the bad score. Most of the colleges S2 applied to last year were clear that they wanted all the SAT1 scores, but were much less clear about whether they insisted on all the SAT2 scores. When they weren't clear, we didn't send them.</p>

<p>Thanks for the replies and the clarification regarding Yale's current score choice policy. Outdated or incorrect info regarding their policy appears in other areas of CC. I so regret having had my S take the SAT 1. If he had just stuck with the ACT and subjects tests, he would have been able to submit his strong SAT 2 subject tests for review but now he will just have to submit his ACT scores. I believe that UPenn, Stanford, Cornell, Harvey Mudd, and Tufts Engineering all have complicated score choice policies so if anyone has insight on these schools please share.</p>