Sean Penn

<p>I love the way Kate Winslet looks!! She is her own glorious self and I loved her acceptance speech. She is supremely gifted, gets amazing roles, and looks like she has a great marriage. Why would she worry about a few crow’s feet?
There is room for all kinds in Hollywood, but I’ll take her over the artifice of some of the other actors any day. It must be an English/American thing. I remember Emma Thompson was similarly vivacious and real. (as in looked her age)</p>

<p>I also love the fact that she doesn’t seem to obsess about her weight.</p>

<p>Winslett did lose some weight recently. I agree that she looked around 40. I was actually shocked when DD googled her and told me she is “only” 33. Not only crow’s feet but also lines on her forehead. Lot’s of crow’s feet for Penelope as well.</p>

<p>Agree that she is a great actress , love watching her !
I also really like another british actress , Helena Bonham-Carter. I am a sucker for costume/period movies!</p>

<p>Penn does smoke- and from his pals- I imagine he likes to drink and play in the sun a bit too.- </p>

<p>I like this picture of [these</a> two in Vegas,](<a href=“http://www.pearljamonline.it/intothewild/ITWphotos2007/Into%20the%20wild/images/sean_penn___ed_vedder__las_vegas__07_25_2007_.jpg]these”>http://www.pearljamonline.it/intothewild/ITWphotos2007/Into%20the%20wild/images/sean_penn___ed_vedder__las_vegas__07_25_2007_.jpg) but I can’t tell if they are just squinting at the camera- or a little blitzed.</p>

<p>I read a great deal about the making of Into the Wild, both because I like the author & because a great deal of the film was made in Portland ( inc @ Reed college). Penn earned even more respect when I heard of his behavior when communicating with the McCandless family over the years. They first changed their mind about having it made & he backed off, but when they heard another studio was going to make it regardless, they gave Penn the go ahead.
He also reconciled with his wife, after they were planning to divorce, when he dedicated a song to her on her birthday at Vedder’s concert in San Francisco last year.
You don’t hear about too many reconciliations in Hollywood.</p>

<p>I also like Kate Winslet- we share a birthday (but you can tell us apart because I have blond eyebrows)- must be where she gets the * I can’t find my pocketbook* look from.</p>

<p>I agree it must be an English thing- English television and films seem more real- the sets look where someone might actually live and the actors look like they run their own errands.</p>

<p>Good actor, but Rourke got robbed.</p>

<p>Good actor, but Rourke got robbed.</p>

<p>wouldn’t know I didn’ t see that movie- often I haven’t seen any of the nominated films for best picture- we did just see Slumdogs on Sat, but that was because I wanted a better idea of where D is going Friday.</p>

<p>And actually I didn’t think Slumdogs deserved best picture. The young children in the film I felt were the best actors- their intensity set the stage for the rest of the movie. But it was hard to watch- & really other that we don’t see many movies set in Asia, the story of boy meets girl, boy is separated from girl, boy attempts to be reunited with girl despite setbacks, has been done before- albeit the way the story was told was different.</p>

<p>I also do not think too much of the ethics of placing what sounds like the majority of the young actors earnings in a trust, which will only be available if they are still in school when they turn 18. </p>

<p>Milk was the film that was robbed- I thought it would have won best picture ( and I don’t normally like Gus Van Sant)</p>

<p>Sean Penn smokes and has always been tough on his body. That will indeed age a person. I think Kate Winslet should age naturally ala Meryl Streep. Both beautiful women.</p>

<p>emeraldkity4 you wrote: do not think too much of the ethics of placing what sounds like the majority of the young actors earnings in a trust, which will only be available if they are still in school when they turn 18…</p>

<p>Except for the “which will only be available if they are still in school when they turn 18”…it’s the same basic situation with under 18 actors here in the US as well (thank you Jackie Coogan laws). The law (Jackie Coogan) was set up specifically so that parents and other “do gooders” can’t get their hands on the kid’s money. I think it is a great idea. And of course, incentive for these kids to stay in school.</p>

<p>but these kids live in the slums of Mumbai.
One of them sleeps with his father under a tarp after their shack was bulldozed.
I am concerned about them reaching 18.</p>

<p>EK–they were paid for the acting separately, and the families are getting a monthly amount. the trust fund is separate from that.</p>

<p>the families aren’t getting anything- I do admit that the children are in school- whereas they were not before & they get $30 a month for books and food.
[Poor</a> parents of ‘Slumdog millionaire’ stars say children were exploited - Telegraph](<a href=“Slumdog child stars miss out on the movie millions”>Slumdog child stars miss out on the movie millions)</p>

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I totally agree; one of the best tributes of the night.</p>

<p>I have mixed feelings about Penn, which none have to do with his political beliefs, but more his public behavior. However, I saw all the movies with best actor nominees, less The Wrestler, and I think Penn deserved this award, hands down.</p>

<p>My favorite remark of the night, though, was about Meryl Streep by Hugh Jackman
“Fifteen career Oscar nominations. That’s a record. I hate to say it but when someone puts up numbers like that, it’s just hard not to think steroids.”</p>

<p>EK–I don’t have time to find the articles now, but that’s not what’s being claimed by the studio(and why wouldn’t they–it costs the studio almost nothing, and otherwise costs terrible publicity.)</p>

<p>I hope it isn’t true
That would be racism IMO, because they surely would be paid more had it been made in Europe or the US,
I also do think that the kids were great actors- who ever found them should get a raise.
[BBC</a> NEWS | South Asia | Slumdog actors show Mumbai’s rags and riches](<a href=“http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7840810.stm]BBC”>BBC NEWS | South Asia | Slumdog actors show Mumbai's rags and riches)
sounds like it is as hard to get public housing there as it is in US</p>

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<p>Well how can you say that if you haven’t seen the Wrestler? I have seen all of them and while Penn was very good, Rourke should have gotten the nod; no question.</p>

<p>Regarding Penn, one can love the actor and have questions about the person and his political choices. It helps remembering that people like Penn are actors and that actors have limited relevance outside their magical and make-believe realm. Some of them excel at inspiring or making the rest of us think about current events. Penn happens to be one the best at that role.</p>

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<p><a href=“Star Report: ‘Slumdog’ kids off to Oscars, then back to slums – The Mercury News”>Star Report: ‘Slumdog’ kids off to Oscars, then back to slums – The Mercury News;

<p>Most of what American child actors’ earn is also put into trust funds, but these families are getting funds to make some different till then. At least, I’ve seen that reported in several places.</p>

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<p>Don’t get me wrong, I loved Slumdog but some of the awards they got was just pure politics (same goes for Milk). It was a great film (though some of the acting, like Jamal’s, was atrocious) that deservedly got a lot of hype after coming out of nowhere. Unfortunately for the other deserving movies, that SDM hype got those Oscars. I would say that while SDM certainly deserved, Best Adapted, Best Director, Best Score, and Best Song, it did not deserve editing, or any of the sound categories. It’s a crock a **** that Wall-E didn’t get those.
As for my gripes with Milk; I think the Academy has it’s ass so far up it’s head that it will never pick a winner based on anything other than politics. There is no way in hell that it should have won Best Original; that was Wall-E, and not even close. Secondly, Penn is a good actor and gave a very good performance, but Rourke should have won. If you think people don’t like Penn, they LOATHE Rourke. The man gives a lot of reasons for people to hate him, but the Oscars shouldn’t be a popularity contest, which is unfortunately what they have become; not a judging of performance.</p>

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<p>I say it because of everything I read that it wasn’t that much of an acting stretch for Rourke to do this role… even he admitted he was just being himself. And in my post above (#52) where I agree with remark made about Penn, I recognize that Penn definitely had the more difficult challenge, acting wise, so I feel he deserved the award.</p>

<p>As for the children in Slumdog – wasn’t there a similar controversy concerning the children in Kite Runner?</p>