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<p>It’s not the different backgrounds…it’s the different ages, for the reasons you say.</p>
<p>I don’t believe that find my phone apps would be able to work if the phone is turned off or after the battery has died. </p>
<p>A lot puzzles me about that phone, and the last text. And I haven’t heard anything more on the phone in while. I assume there’s more that the police know but aren’t sharing publically at this time. </p>
<p>And like you @sevmom, I am dumfounded that she wasn’t reported missing until what, something like 39 hours after that last text. </p>
<p>What we don’t know is if there is some back story that could include getting into some “tiff” with friends or roommates and stomping off alone in some fit of pique (justifiably or otherwise). Those things happen occasionally, and could explain some of her behaviour. And, if its the case, it could explain the delay in reporting. </p>
<p>I suppose that she could have somehow left town on her own, but it seems unlikely that no one would have seen her. She didn’t exactly blend in to the surroundings since she was very tall, and dressed in a way that isn’t normal for daytime wear.</p>
<p>One would assume the police are looking at/for surveillance videos that might pick up traffic that could give them a clue of where the person of interest might have gone in his car after he left that bar. You need to have gotten a statement from him about where he went and when, and then see if you can corroborate it. Catching a lie would be damning. </p>
<p>Evidence of her being in his car or apartment would be damning, too since he claims she wasn’t there. I wonder what they removed from that apt complex.</p>
<p>The twitter account from Charlottesville NBC29 is reporting that the police will update at a press conference at 3pm today.</p>
<p>They’re being good about the press conferences and I suggest folks try to listen to those. You can then get your own firsthand impressions, not rely on distant media. (Or those headlines that say “Latest!” and turn out to be from two days ago.)</p>
<p>I don’t think cell phone tracking can get you down to which street corner. How close depends on several factors. </p>
<p>When we use “find my iphone,” it shows us our house on a map. It’s very accurate in this area. Whether the data is stored, I don’t know–but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were. </p>
<p>Now, in cities, sometimes GPS systems seem to be off, probably from interference from buildings. </p>
<p>Google…OK, if they’ve recovered her iPhone (if she had one), they have a record of where she was, when: <a href=“Your iPhone Knows Exactly Where You've Been And This Is How To See It”>Your iPhone Knows Exactly Where You've Been And This Is How To See It, unless she was much more privacy- and technology-aware than your average college freshman.</p>
<p>Longo said triangulate, which is towers. Apple says “where you were” is stored on your phone. But it seems to depend on how recent the phone- and perhaps the settings. I know there’s more location info that can be technically available, we just don’t know if there’s the ‘perfect storm’ where what they need for Heather is available. But Longo did say they were asking. I don’t see where the searchers looked- </p>
<p>Wow., this police chief is going off on Jesse Mathew in a way that you seldom see at this point in an investigation.</p>
<p>I have a question/comment that is obviously about a side issue, since the only focus right now needs to be on finding her. But, given the # of “underage drunk college students in trouble” stories that populate the news fairly routinely, I have to wonder, does anyone ever actually go after the people who were holding the house parties and providing alcohol illegally to underage students? She reportedly went to two off-campus parties before going to the bar, and she had been drinking. If I provide alcohol to underage kids, I can be fined something like $2000 <em>per occurrence (e.g., kids)</em> – that racks up to a hefty fine pretty quickly if there are multiple kids involved. I know the underage kids go out looking for alcohol, and they’re certainly at fault … but the people throwing the house parties and serving underage kids are breaking the law as well; if the people throwing these house parties were held responsible maybe they’d be a bit more careful who they served. Whether you agree with the drinking age laws or not, they are the law, and while obviously education about how to be safe is extremely important, I do wonder if enforcement were stricter/harsher, if the “drunk college students in trouble” headlines would abate a bit…</p>
<p>The university has an honor code. I don’t know if it applies to drinking, but it would seem that serving alcohol to minors or drinking alcohol as a minor should be penalized by the university as well. </p>
<p>Clearly it’s a terrible thing to drink so much that judgment is impaired but the villain in this story is the person who took advantage of the fact that a girl was drunk. </p>
<p>I hope forensics finds something to help solve the case from the car or the apartment so that police can make an arrest. I want this guy off the streets and in jail. Although he had days to clean his car (and I hope neighbors or local car washes are thinking back if they saw him vacuuming the car, etc), its very difficult to clean all hairs, threads, fingerprints, etc. out of a car. </p>
<p>The chief said JM went to the cops and demanded a lawyer. Then he sped out of town. There is warrant out for reckless driving. Also, police indicated that they had evidence of the two together after they left the bar. But, they wouldn’t elaborate.</p>
<p>Did she know him? Was his contact information in her phone?</p>
<p>@allinsh1 raises a good issue. These occurrences have become too commonplace on college campuses and yes, I do think all the Univerisities need to put their heads together and see what can be done to help these kids navigate the environment that is thrust upon them when they arrive on campus. Hannah Grraham could be our daughters - educated, pretty, well-liked, from a family that cares deeply about her and who I am sure had many conversations about the dangers of drinking with her. It appears none of this is enough to counter the culture of today’s college campuses. I don’t know if it is peer pressure or the desire to fit in, but it is pretty clear that the vast majority of these kids are not equipped to deal with the alcohol that is readily available to them. </p>
<p>The UVa Honor Code cover lying, cheating and stealing. There is nothing in writing that says that lying about your age to obtain alcohol is exempt, but it has been treated like it is exempt. </p>
<p>I am sure no one is asking for ID at these house or frat parties. An Honor Code is not going to solve this problem. </p>
<p>Alcohol is so embedded in American culture that it’s difficult to dislodge. Things have changed towards being stricter since we were in college, but it’s still a huge issue on many campuses. My daughter’s college (also in Virginia) did have penalties for underage drinking but realistically when you have a culture that celebrates drinking (and not just campus culture) the penalties don’t mean too much. What ends up happening is what’s happened all along – people who want to drink will drink, and people who don’t won’t; of the people who do end up drinking, most of them will turn out alright and a few will end up tragedies.</p>
<p>My heart goes out to this family and I hope to God that Hannah does not turn out to be one of those tragedies. I can’t ignore what I know about the statistics of these cases though.</p>
<p>I haven’t seen the news conference, but I hope the police chief keeps his composure. If this person harmed her, and no one witnessed it, a trial would be filled with opportunities for a competent attorney to raise reasonable doubt defenses. Its incumbent upon the police to do everything possible not to add to those opportunities in any way.</p>
<p>Also, I can’t figure out the timeline. Did the guy take off in his car after it was released to him? Was he in another car? Do the police still have the car? Do they know where he is currently? Its not critical for us to know that, but the reporting raises questions about what’s happening. </p>
<p>He came in voluntarily with a couple of family members to the police station yesterday afternoon and asked for a lawyer. One came . The man gave no info about his interactions with Hannah . He left and later was seen in Albemarle County driving recklessly and 2 misdemeanor warrants are out for his arrest. </p>