<p>Oh right, because when I think Italian or Jewish, I don’t think white at all…People tend to associate Italians and Jews with aborigines from Madagascar.</p>
<p>“Why are poor minorities joining gangs in higher rates than poor white kids? Who knows. However, that fact alone shows that socio-economic status isn’t the only factor that goes into white priveledge. And SOMETHING needs to be done to counteract it.”</p>
<p>This makes little sense. What does your idea of “white privilege” have to do with joining or not joining gangs? Seems more like a lack of judgment, which is not a racial characteristic, but is present in all cultures, races, countries, classes, etc.</p>
<p>By the way, what are YOU doing about this? Your solutions? Personal and political?</p>
<p>The “C” word I was referring to is the one that women find very offensive.</p>
<p>You think that minorities joining gangs and poor whites not joining gangs is WHITE PRIVILEGE? How about the culture that poor minorities grow up in? On welfare, usually without a father, and glorifying the most immoral scumsucking wastes of space possible - rappers. They idolize these people who rap about the glamor of “thug life” and the “ghetto.” I’ve heard a few black kids at my school say that they were treated poorly in high school by their peers because doing well in school was “selling out” and being “white.”</p>
<p>Quote: “Oh right, because when I think Italian or Jewish, I don’t think white at all…People tend to associate Italians and Jews with aborigines from Madagascar.”</p>
<p>Question: I do not understand what you mean by this? Explain?</p>
<p>Chuck: To be fair, there was a prevailing anti-immigrant sentiment when it wasn’t just Mexicans and East Asians. “No Irish Need Apply” existed. Look at the neighborhoods of Chicago for proof that ethnic whites were poor and put into ghettos and used by the Democrats just as blacks are poor and live in ghettos and are used by the Democrats today.</p>
<p>Chuck: I guess I grew up in blissful ignorance–I used to think Spanish-speaking people (Latinos, now) were white! Hahahah.</p>
<p>Is this country becoming more Balkanized or what?</p>
<p>Being sarcastic. Jews and Italians are white, and this Just_Browsing cat doesn’t consider them to be so…w/e</p>
<p>Collegialmom: It’s sarcasm.</p>
<p>So you guys are saying that black people are oppressing themeselves and that is their “culture” keeping them down.
Yeeeeaah, that’s only a little racist.</p>
<p>What I was trying to say was that the fact that is seems that the only option available to poor minorities is joining a gang… you know something is seriously wrong with the system. Is it racism? Maybe.</p>
<p>As for what I’m doing? Right now I’m arguing with a bunch of folks on this discussions forum about the deffinition of racism. I fully support what the Seattle school system is talking about here.</p>
<p>“Being sarcastic. Jews and Italians are white, and this Just_Browsing cat doesn’t consider them to be so…w/e”</p>
<p>However, there was so much prejudice against them. Now, although there is still some in the US, generally those groups rose above it. So the question is, how to proceed with groups that remain disenfranchised? And ultimately, doesn’t this have to come from those in the groups themselves?</p>
<p>“What I was trying to say was that the fact that is seems that the only option available to poor minorities is joining a gang… you know something is seriously wrong with the system. Is it racism? Maybe.”</p>
<p>That is NEVER the only option. Look to other groups in the same circumstances. And give blacks some credit.</p>
<p>Errr, just about my comment about Jews, Irish and Italians not being considered white a few decades ago. Well, its really quite true. The Irish used to be called “white ■■■■■■■.” Italians were second-class citizens… and the Jews. Well, just ask the Nazis if they thought Jews were white.</p>
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<p>I never said it was the only option, I said it seems in some cases to be the only option.</p>
<p>“Errr, just about my comment about Jews, Irish and Italians not being considered white a few decades ago. Well, its really quite true. The Irish used to be called “white ■■■■■■■.” Italians were second-class citizens… and the Jews. Well, just ask the Nazis if they thought Jews were white.”</p>
<p>You seem to see the world in black and white. It just ain’t so.</p>
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Yes, because the Nazis were really influential shaping social policy in the US…</p>
<p>Blacks need new role models and new leaders. They need role models who are not immoral hedonistic rappers. They need community leaders who do not want to keep them on the new plantation - get rid of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and bring on people like Larry Elder.</p>
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<p>EXACTLY! Thank you neverborn. All I must ask you is, where will those new role models have gone to college?</p>
<p>What about Thomas Sowell, who went to Harvard without AA?</p>
<p>All the power to him. But right now what, only 96 African-Americans are in the Freshman class at UCLA? Is that the statistic?</p>
<p>Kind of low, no? Where you going to get all them role models?</p>
<p>Born and raised in what was then known as South Central Los Angeles, Elder graduated from Crenshaw High School and earned his B.A. in Political Science in 1974 from Brown University. He then earned his J.D. from University of Michigan Law School in 1977.</p>
<p>Hmmm.</p>
<p>And yeah - South Central LA. Crenshaw High, which is so bad it LOST its accreditation last year.</p>