<p>Jym626, yes we do. :)</p>
<p>If ebola was so contagious, Africa would have already been wiped out. </p>
<p>" I can’t find the article I read about it not having been transmitted through sexual contact yet, but I’ll keep looking. I’ve been reading a lot in the last week and can’t remember where I saw that. It will come back to me! "</p>
<p>I wonder how they can determine it hasn’t been transmitted through sexual contact? I doubt they’ve been able to interview and figure out how all those thousands of people in West Africa got it. They have just been making assumptions.</p>
<p>“If the doctor’s non-symptomatic girlfriend is quarantined and the bowling alley is closed someone must think there is some potential danger to public health”</p>
<p>Why in the world would they quarantine the girlfriend, but not quarantine the doctor, who had been in contact with many people with Ebola, no doubt in the seriously contagious stages? Doesn’t make sense.</p>
<p>Anyone who wants to sell their place in Manhattan because of ebola, please pm me. I am not going to pay the value before oct 23. Maybe 80 percent of the value now that a doctor has come up with ebola. </p>
<p>I would do the same in Dallas but I have zero interest in Dallas. I did like the original tv show version of Dallas.</p>
<p>My cavalier used to like the ball that you would put peanut butter in or the one that would roll around and drop treats on the floor as it rolled. God he loved that thing</p>
<p>lLasMa,</p>
<p>Your question wasn’t directed at me, but on its own website, DWB says 23 of its staff members have been infected since March, and seven have recovered .</p>
<p><a href=“Ebola | Doctors Without Borders - USA”>http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/our-work/medical-issues/ebola</a></p>
<p>Bay, not zero out of four. I don’t have the timeline in front of me at the moment, but off the top of my head:</p>
<p>Dr. Brantly & Ms. Writebol. Worked in the Africa hot zone.
A Dr. Sacra. Worked in the Africa hot zone.
Thomas Duncan. Exposed to end-stage ebola in Africa hot zone.
Photojournalist. Worked in the Africa hot zone.
Anonymous HCW treated at Emory. Worked in the Africa hot zone.
Two Spanish missionaries. Worked in the Africa hot zone.
Spanish nurse’s aide. Exposed to end-stage ebola from missionaries.
British nurse. Worked in the Africa hot zone.
Nurses Pham & Vinson. Exposed to end-stage ebola from Duncan.
Dr. Spencer. Worked in the Africa hot zone.
(Of these, 3 died – Duncan, who was diagnosed very late, and one of the missionaries, who was 75 years old)</p>
<p>Here’s a partial list of people who have NOT gotten sick:</p>
<p>People who were on airplanes with Duncan before he was symptomatic.
People who were on airplanes with Vinson when she WAS symptomatic.
People who lived with Duncan when he was highly symptomatic.
People who lived in Duncan’s apartment complex when he was highly symptomatic.
People who lived in Pham’s and Vinson’s apartment complexes when they had early-stage symptoms.
People who were in the ER with Duncan during his first visit, including HCW and other patients.
EMTs who handled Duncan when he was highly symptomatic on his ambulance ride.
People who were in a bridal shop in Ohio.
People who have visited Dallas.
People who have visited other parts of Africa.</p>
<p>I think I see a pattern emerging.</p>
<p>Awesome post, dstark.:)</p>
<p>Ok you’ve named 3 people who were in public spaces while infected. So it’s zero out of 3, then, not 4. </p>
<p>Interesting how DWB phrases things. In their press release, they say:“While some MSF staff members have been exposed in the field, those exposures were detected and the staff members were immediately isolated and treated. Two international staff members have been medically evacuated. They have fully recovered”</p>
<p>Kind of makes you think nobody from MSF has died, and only two people have gotten Ebola. Yet digging a little further, on the link that Bay provided, it says,“MSF has been responding to the outbreak since March, and currently has a total of 3,288 staff working in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone, treating a rapidly increasing number of patients. Twenty-three MSF staff have been infected with Ebola since March, seven of whom have recovered. The vast majority of these infections were found to have occurred in the community.”</p>
<p>So seven out of 23 staff members infected have recovered. Does that mean the other 16 have died, but they aren’t outright saying so? And what does it mean that, “The vast majority of these infections were found to have occurred in the community?” Does that mean they didn’t get them from treating infected patients, but just by living in those communities?</p>
<p>DWB has had many infections of their staff. They are obviously not able to do an adequate job of protecting them. I suspect sooner or later they will have a protocol of isolation after people are out of West Africa, and perhaps less people will go, but perhaps only those who are more committed to going will do so. People might be willing to stay longer than just a month (like Dr Spencer did), if they are going to need to spend the additional time in isolation.</p>
<p>This says 13 have died in the past 7 months.
<a href=“Dr. Craig Spencer becomes 24th Doctors Without Borders staffer to contract Ebola”>World News - New York Daily News;
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<p>The spaces I named were: Africa hot zone, and hospital room caring for end-stage ebola patient. Do you consider those spaces to be akin to bowling alleys and airplanes? </p>
<p>The doctors, health care providers, volunteers…these people are heroes. Real heroes. </p>
<p>Nina is probably going to be deluged with requests for interviews. I really hope she has someone to handle this for her so she can just rest and enjoy being with her family. Also hope her boyfriend stays healthy.</p>
<p>“My cavalier used to like the ball that you would put peanut butter in or the one that would roll around and drop treats on the floor as it rolled. God he loved that thing”</p>
<p>Gotta get those for them. But the tri wants it all, so that could be a problem. If we get two of them, she’ll end up with them both.</p>
<p>Alpha female?</p>
<p>I really hope Nina & Amber get all their health back – as I understand it, Ebola can be very debilitating. Also hoping Dr Spencer recovers quickly.</p>
<p>Busdriver,
The peanut butter one is made by Kong. Kinda looks like the Michelin man. The other is round and translucent</p>
<p>DWB physicians are “at breaking point:”</p>
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<p><a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?;
<p>That part of the article might better belong on the hysteria thread. Imo THIS is the more poignant part:
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<p>That can’t be good for their immune systems, to get progressively worn down like that.</p>
<p>This sounds like hell on earth.</p>