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Actually, they kind of are “volunteers”. One wonders what these assignments might do to enlistment numbers if this goes on for any length of time, or if they start returning sick.</p>
<p>Off topic: Is anyone else having issues with the “preview” function?</p>
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<p>I answered that in #2858. </p>
<p>In nursing, we always say “treat the patient, not the monitor.” If a patient records a really low blood pressure, but is talking and appearing to feel just fine, I don’t call the doc to report hypotension, I recheck it. If the cuff is too small, too large, put on too tight, too loose, if the patient moves around too much while the machine is going, or lays on the arm which is wearing the cuff, it can cause a false reading.</p>
<p>If I check it and it’s normal, I note it. 15 minutes later, I check it again. If it is still normal, I would not conclude that the patient was going into shock or was hypotensive, I’d conclude that I had a false reading. Same with ekg alarms; just because it shows asystole does not mean the patient is dead. It might mean their leads have come off.</p>
<p>If the patient did not sustain a fever when rechecked, she would not be considered to be febrile. You don’t get to insist someone is ill just because you got one clinical measurement which is contradicted by other data.</p>
<p>Seems to me that there is a possibility that the governor is insisting that the patient was “clearly ill” because it suits his purposes to do so or he has not understood that follow up assessments contradicted that initial reading.</p>
<p>It was a sound-bite quote in a newspaper. I really think people are placing too much importance on it.</p>
<p>" Is it typical that the moment a test result is recieved, it is immediately read by a physician and the patient is immediately cleared to walk out the door (assuming he waits for clearance). Or does it take a few hours, especially on Sundays?"</p>
<p>You actually believe any test on a possible Ebola case isn’t going to read right away? Really? </p>
<p>And it was either Friday night or Saturday morning, IIRC, when the results of her Ebola test were made public. </p>
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<p>Yes, quarantine is true detention; similar to being detained, but not offcially arrested for being intoxicated n public. If one breaks quarantine because of a potential or suspected disease, then one can be arrested for endangering the public and for defying a state order. </p>
<p>This applies to employees who travel overseas and get held over for testing for a disease on the way back in the country. This can happen if they present sick on the way back in. If the employee defies the temporary hold for the test, he can be arrested. </p>
<p>Well they said they discharged her within 24 hours of the test results, so I guess they are lying about that too, then.</p>
<p>“Actually, they kind of are “volunteers”. One wonders what these assignments might do to enlistment numbers if this goes on for any length of time, or if they start returning sick.”</p>
<p>No, they are not volunteers anymore than someone who decides to go into any profession is. </p>
<p>I think continual war is likely to have more of an effect on enlistment then being sent to West Africa to set up hospitals. </p>
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<p>Oh, I think we absolutely can know. </p>
<p>We know, first, that this U-turn it had nothing to do with the science. Ms. Hickox was negative and asymptomatic then, and she is negative and asymptomatic now. Nothing about her medical condition has changed.</p>
<p>We also know that, unfortunately for them, fate handed them as their test case a feisty, articulate detainee who was not about to meekly submit to what she knew was bad science.</p>
<p>And we know that the blowback has been considerable, and that politicians don’t usually tend to be overly courageous in the face of blowback, especially when they expected to be lauded as heroes instead.</p>
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<p>Didn’t the governors declare state of emergency? That gave them the power to quarantine/detain. I posted the link on that subject about 100 pages ago. It addresses this exact point restricting civil liberty in quarantine. If I find it, I’ll post it again.</p>
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<p>It discusses many scenarios including the case where there are no cure/vaccine and when it hits dense population area that makes tracking individuals difficult.</p>
<p>Bay, where will they keep them?</p>
<p>No. I do not believe a State of Emergency was declared in New York. Can’t speak for NJ. </p>
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<p>Thank you for the link. How does it compare to any other isolation unit that hospitals around the country are required to have? I am assuming everything should be disposable. That includes toilet, toilet waste, shower, and used shower water if the shower was given. In the earlier report I read, they said she didn’t have heat and toilet.</p>
<p>The NY Daily News says Hickox is “en route home to Fort Kent, Me. in a convoy of black SUVs in a trip that will take 10 hours.” (the article was updated around 5 p.m.)
<a href=“Nurse Kaci Hickox heading for Maine after leaving New Jersey Ebola quarantine: officials ”>Health News - New York Daily News;
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Doesn’t what you posted argue for an earlier discharge rather than later? If it was all about the conspirators being up a creek and caught red-handed, why prolong it?</p>
<p>Perhaps there was a change in protocol that called for two tests. Or they decided to use a second lab to make sure they got it right with so much publicity. Who knows?</p>
<p>To me, the entire 3-day process didn’t seem unreasonable, but I get that it does to some of you and I don’t really care that we don’t all agree. </p>
<p>Yes, that’s what the NY Times said several hours ago.</p>
<p>She had a porta potty. No showering facilities.</p>
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Idk. Maybe house arrest with an ankle bracelet. That seems like the cheapest method. </p>
<p>When Christie and Cuomo had their joint press conference, they hadn’t thought through what they would do to make this 21-day quarantine. It sounds like they passed the hot potato to the hospital in Newark, where the hospital put her into a tent with a porta potty.</p>