Second Ebola patient

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<p>zooser, Yes they knew. Not only that they they are kind of special forces in medicine. They are specically trained to deal with it. That was what I was trying to say. And that’s where I thought all Ebola patients should be directed instead of trying to get every single hospital in the country ready for Ebola.</p>

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<p>Igloo also needs to read up on how the US government and state governments work and how a typical US hospital operates. </p>

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<p>For the love of god, could you PLEASE stop inserting your political/social agenda into every conversation? You too, Iglooo.</p>

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<p>Lets send all the ebola pts up to the frozen tundra of Alaska. There’s a plan.</p>

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<p>I am not in NY but I got suspicious of Dr Frieden when he claimed we are fully prepared in the remote chance Ebola turns up here. I never knew him before. It was clear to me it was an empty promise given the porosity of the border and the rigor it takes to treat the patient.</p>

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<p>I wonder what the 70 plus health care workers who cared for Duncan are doing now? Are they working? I saw on Wfaa.com that the Dallas County health commissioner was thinking of putting all of them in isolation! What will they do for income? </p>

<p>The economic costs of this are going to be severe. </p>

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<p>Thanks jym, I saw that but it didn’t reference CDC guidelines or that required protocols had not been followed. </p>

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<p>If I criticize CDC, is it immediately being political? Let me know if you think CDC guidelines were adequate to take care of late stage Ebola patient. We can go from there.</p>

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<p>I suspect there is plenty of room for blame and constructive criticism for everybody involved in this situation. I am concerned, however, that the desire to score points will actually impede efforts to fix problems. I do find it odd that the critics of CDC seem to be arguing for more federal government involvement. What’s next–a demand by the critics for “death panels” to determine which Ebola patients get treatment? Oh, wait:

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<p>Isn’t it a national problem? Is it so odd to expect federal involvement in this? Besides, wasn’t it CDC spearheading the preparation?</p>

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<p>@Hunt - don’t forget the requests for the CDC to wave a magic federal money wand to purchase isolation equipment and PPE for private facilities who have decided that the cost outweighs the risk.</p>

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<p>Only the federal government can issue a travel ban which a large majority of Americans want. Doing that back in September would have prevented this whole thing. </p>

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<p>And now there’s a third patient: <a href=“With New Ebola Case Confirmed, U.S. Vows Vigilance - The New York Times”>http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/us/ebola-outbreak-texas.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I guess what’s unsettling here is how catchy Ebola is. I know, I know, it’s caught by bodily fluids. But both these staff members were wearing protective equipment. Sure, one might have touched her face. But the fact that there are two cases now suggests that the virus is quite contagious. </p>

<p>If people wearing protective gear in a first world hospital can get the disease, I wonder how it will go in places that don’t have such facilities or gear.</p>

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<p>Igloo,
Go read up on JCAHO guidelines and we can go from there.</p>

<p><em>Eta</em> and here- let me help you with their updated info on preparing for Ebola <a href=“http://www.jointcommission.org/issues/article.aspx?Article=aQJBGQFS4EG9dUqpeUCr%2Fm5YN5H%2FscKmK%2F6x6Ov0U2A%3D”>Joint Commission Online | The Joint Commission;

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<p>Come on Hunt, really? talk about a political post.</p>

<p>The issue isn’t WHICH patients get treated, but how to determine when there is no further hope for a specific patient and then minimize the risk to caregivers.</p>

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<p><a href=“MSN”>http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/dallas-nurses-describe-ebola-hospital-care-there-was-no-protocol/ar-AA6RbsN&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Do people here know that the CDC guidelines don’t mention any head or neck covering and nothing about more than one set of gloves, and leg and foot covering only in later stages if necessary? Again, I haven’t seen any allegations that the hospital staff didn’t follow those guidelines. </p>

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<p>Mindfully - new reports have suggested that the nurses who contracted Ebola were NOT wearing the correct protective equipment. Nurses on the ground there say they did not have adequate PPE for days and that the equipment they wore was too small (for example, it left their necks uncovered).</p>

<p>Ebola is very catchy in its final stages, *especially if people are not protected adequately *. Remember, no one who had contact with Mr. Duncan before he became symptomatic has come down with disease… </p>

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<p>This is interesting re incubation period.
<a href=“http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/14-october-2014/en/”>http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/14-october-2014/en/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Come on, zoosermom, the motivation for so much of the criticism is so transparent, I just find it aggravating. Like the nonsense about how if only a private CEO were dealing with the problem there would be accountability. Really? Like the people at GM who made all those defective ignition switches?</p>

<p>I have no problem with criticism of the CDC. They probably did underestimate the risk (or maybe they accurately estimated the risk AND the true cost of full preparation). But the hospital probably didn’t take adequate precautions that it could have and should have taken. And the nurses may have failed to do what they were trained to do as well. As I said, though, the desire to score points could obscure the need to identify just where the problems are.</p>