<p>Igloo, if you’d read the posts above,you’d see that it was mentioned that the CDC sent out recommendations in August. And if you ignore guidelines you cannot follow for whatever reason, well, words fail me. </p>
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<p>Agreed. I will ignore anything not Dallas and Ebola related.</p>
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I really don’t understand what you are saying there. What I was saying was that the Nebraska and Atlanta hospitals had advanced warning of the patients coming to them and could be more prepared. Which, to me, means that there should be very explicit protocols in every hospital with an emergency room.</p>
<p>What is the second nurse’s condition? Did they catch early on?</p>
<p>I am guessing that Presbyterian Hospital may end up facing bankruptcy by the time this is over.</p>
<p>The news today is that 11 workers were “definitely exposed” - I’m not sure if that includes the two currently sick.
If even half of those get sick, can they really handle caring for 5 Ebola patients at the same time?</p>
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If a hospital accepts/treats/admits patients, they have to have the necessary equipment and services. And meet JCAHO guidelines. And who said all the patients are charity cases? Even if some were, County hospitals are funded to address the uninsured/underinsured. If you get ebola symptoms, it will be unfortunate if your hospital says “sorry, cant afford to treat you. Have a nice day”.</p>
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Good. Hope that means the constant slam-the-administration stuff will cease. One can dream.</p>
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<p>They said she was saw that she had a temp and within 90 minutes they had her isolated. Sounds like it was early.
Also that she lives alone with no pets.
We’re not sure if she’s a nurse, but it seems likely.</p>
<p>zooser, they are specialized hospitals, something like infectious disease center. They didn’t just know patients are coming. Their staff is extensively trained to deal with highly infectious disease. I am guessing their staff know how to take off hazmat suits without makng common mistakes.</p>
<p>Igloo you deleted post 512, in reference to your expectations that guidelines should be modified if you thought they were excessive, where I think you said you’d buy your kid a helmet or tell him not to ride the bike (and whatever else you said). By removing it after others have responded it detracts form the conversation as the posts have no point of reference.</p>
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Not surprising really. It took them 4 days to clean up Duncan’s vomit from public area. That’s because CDC classified Ebola virus something special and DOT couldn’t issue a permit to transport"</p>
<p>That’s absolutely incorrect. The hospital administration was not moving their behinds fast enough or was not willing to pay for the services of a carrier that was licensed to to this. How do you think hospitals in Atlanta deal with such waste? </p>
<p>I’m wondering if this hospital will face bankruptcy also. A few days ago I read that they have diverted ambulances to other hospitals. I also read that their business is down 25% after the first nurse was diagnosed. And now a second. And all the bad publicity about how unprotected the nurses were. Really, if you are scheduling a surgery or childbirth, wouldn’t you go somewhere else. Dallas has many fine hospitals.</p>
<p>Hospital administrators are not little kids who cannot handle a “gun” given to them - they are seasoned soldiers who chose to ignore the instructions and proceeded with their business if budget cuts, profit maximization, and ignorance. They chose to not supply proper instructions and PPE as it looks like. </p>
<p>Exactly right, BB. Emergency preparedness takes time and money. And if a hospital administration thinks the likelihood that they will get an ebola victim is low, they may choose not to prepare. Could turn out to be a very bad decision.</p>
<p>Sorry if I missed it, but is there actual evidence that the hospital didn’t follow CDC guidelines?</p>
<p>Do you work in healthcare, igloo? Apparently not.</p>
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They did know. We all knew. It was all over the news that the patients would be coming back from Africa, when they would be coming and where they would be coming. Yes the hospitals had extensive training, but they also knew what they were getting and when they were getting it. Which does make it easier when the element of surprised is removed. Therefore, other hospitals have to be even more prepared because they won’t get advanced warning.</p>
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<p>And this is why all hospitals do not do everything. No company or entity can, as it exposes itself to the unnecessary risk of taking care of extremely rare cases for which it is fiscally impossible to keep a trained staff all the time. Even a rich hospital, such as Dallas Presbyterian, cannot afford to do that.</p>
<p>In the larger hospital area, layoffs are going to start occurring in surrounding businesses, as people are avoiding the hospital environs. And the value of the real estate instantly got depressed, lowering assessments and taxes collected next year. Who is going to buy a building or build a new one in that area right now? </p>
<p>This is the downstream effects that I mentioned a while back that are clearly not part of any policy of consciously importing a disease, but leave behind lasting community damage. And who will suffer? Not the rich, but the middle class who need the jobs, and the poor due to lower tax base for public services. </p>
<p>This is why thinking ahead is extremely important.</p>
<p>Bay- was posted above <a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/health/texas-ebola-nurses-union-claims/index.html?hpt=hp_t1”>http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/health/texas-ebola-nurses-union-claims/index.html?hpt=hp_t1</a></p>
<p>I have come to believe in flight restrictions from the impacted areas, and being in New York, I have learned that Dr. Frieden isn’t truly known for his competence and honesty.</p>