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I read that as that you were driving on CNN!</p>
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I read that as that you were driving on CNN!</p>
<p>Sorry. A little wine with dinner and the commas just disappear. </p>
<p>But the point of my comment is right on.</p>
<p>“Once again the CDC tried initially to lay the blame on the nurse. I said in an earlier post that she was irresponsible. And while she was irresponsible to be traveling after being exposed to an Ebola patient, looks like it was the CDC that was the irresponsible entity here and then Frieden tried again to blame the nurse.”</p>
<p>Both the CDC person (if there is one) she called and the nurse are here to share the oops. Apparently, the nurses who were in contact with Duncan were told to not use any public transport, fever or not. If you have been on the front lines caring for an Ebola patient and you think you are coming down with something, wouldn’t it be obvious to you that there is a chance you are coming down with something nastier than flu?! The cop cared enough about his life to check his blood (granted, he did not do it in the best way). Is your life less valuable than a plane ticket?</p>
<p>You’d think that if a nurse called CDC and said “I was one of the nurses caring for Thomas Duncan” she’d be immediately referred to some sort of hot line, someone higher up, to tell her whether it was prudent for her to board an airplane. </p>
<p>The report I heard said she called multiple times. </p>
<p>You really can’t even make this stuff up. It’s like a never ending story of what not to do. Did these people at the cdc get their degrees at a clown college? </p>
<p>Too bad I already bought some plane tickets. I probably overpaid - it is clear that the prices could drop now! :)</p>
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<p>Apparently so.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/15/second-dallas-hospital-worker-diagnosed-ebola/17290677/”>http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/15/second-dallas-hospital-worker-diagnosed-ebola/17290677/</a></p>
<p>Nina’s GoFundMe doubled today - now $51183. Maybe Amber’s family will start one soon.</p>
<p>Oh! Amber has her own GoFundMe now - $35 raised in 6 hours from a total of 2 donors.</p>
<p>Wow - several vicious, negative comments on Amber’s GoFundMe page about how she took the commercial flight with a 99.5 fever.</p>
<p>And here’s how many flights that plane took before being disinfected: <a href=“http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/4th-ebola-patient-arrives-atlanta-headed-emory/nhj8H/”>http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/4th-ebola-patient-arrives-atlanta-headed-emory/nhj8H/</a></p>
<p>Regardless of her chances of being contagious, this was a horrible decision from the standpoint of calming the easily alarmed. </p>
<p>Frieden’s days are probably numbered. Not much higher than single digits, I hope.</p>
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<p>It sounds like Frieden’s no public transportation policy came after her trip. This guy is still behind the curve.</p>
<p>“Frieden’s days are probably numbered.”</p>
<p>Probably. He is a smart scientist and certainly very qualified, but he is not very articulate and does not do a good job of distilling the complex issues down to basics to calm the masses.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t doubt it, BB, but the position he’s been placed in is a tough one.</p>
<p>Letting her fly seems consistent with the travel protocols we’ve been operating under (break-point fever, history’s irrelevant) but they’re probably as ephemeral as he is, at this point.</p>
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<p>If everyone were “ahead of the curve” on Ebola, it wouldn’t exist.</p>
<p>I understand that the “CDC” told her she could fly home. I don’t get how a RN with 2 degrees would even need to ask the question. I know it’s not PC to even lay a hint of blame at the nurse rather than bureaucratic ineptitude, but sorry, as a RN, I don’t see how this wasn’t TOTALLY obvious to her. </p>
<p>That said, I can see some “CDC person” looking at their manual, “Okay, so your temp is not 100.4? Great, you’re good to go!”</p>
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<p>If she called up and said “Is it okay for me to drive home, I would really rather be there,” sure. Fly on a commercial plane?</p>
<p>I’m not one to leap to bashing the CDC, and I think that she was probably not significantly contagious, but come on, people! I don’t think one can reliably predict the point at which she might start vomiting. Not enough to risk it, anyway.No one knows exactly how that conversation went at this point. Maybe they said we’d rather you didn’t and she said but I really really want to go home.</p>
<p>You have to wonder how many patients these nurses saw during or after treating Duncan? Are they all being contacted? What about the people in the waiting room? They had to have been sitting near him for probably hours if it’s anything like the er’s around me. By no means is this contained. </p>
<p>Someone asked me if I would take care of an Ebola patient if I would agree to be quarantine for 21 - 42 days afterwards. My answer was NO!! If they will pay me, fine. Just being honest. I think the answer will be universal among healthcare workers. I can’t imagine the problems this will lead to when Ebola patients decide to stay home if they aren’t guaranteed care at a hospital, but this is something to consider now before it becomes a reality.</p>
<p>I have a huge issue with the CDC poster (protocol) for wearing PPE. Page 3 is COMPLETELY WRONG and DANGEROUS! Sorry for shouting. But I was alarmed by this. They are asking someone in a level 3 gown to take off their gloves first, to then dispose of a level 4 contaminated gown!!! No surgeon, anesthesiologist or doctor performing invasive procedures would find this acceptable. No one should be surprised if healthcare workers are getting infected after following these procedures. Page 4 is ok, somewhat.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/pdf/ppe-poster.pdf”>http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/pdf/ppe-poster.pdf</a></p>
<p>Took a look and agree. Page 3 should not even be there! </p>