<p>Can someone remind me what the downside of denying entry to those with infected-country-passports is again?</p>
<h1>1. It will hinder medical aid.</h1>
<h1>2. It won’t stop West Africans from traveling, bribing and other means.</h1>
<p>I think that’s about it. </p>
<p>Here we go . . . the Dallas County Commission is meeting to declare a disaster so that they can set enforceable local rules about quarantine and travel restrictions.</p>
<p><a href=“Dallas County Disaster Declaration Tabled in Ebola Fight – NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth”>Dallas County Disaster Declaration Tabled in Ebola Fight – NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth;
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<p>Bay, frugaldoctor – unlike the rest of us armchair quarterbacks – has actually been in the hot zone and worked directly with Ebola patients. Perhaps you have better information than an MD who’s been on the front lines. But in case you’re interested, here’s what he has to say in post #273:</p>
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<p>I didn’t say ban flights; I said deny entry to the US to those holding passports from infectious countries. Sure some will get around it with a false or dual passport, but that is not a reason not to do it. </p>
<p>CDC certainly has a lot to answer for, and so also does Texas Presbyterian. The hospital has been almost silent for the last 3 weeks, but the nurses are speaking out:</p>
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<p><a href=“Nurses at Dallas hospital describe poor safety measures with Ebola victim”>Nurses at Dallas hospital describe poor safety measures with Ebola victim;
<p>I read elsewhere that Ebola training at Texas Pres was “optional.”</p>
<p>And one of the most telling things about these reports is that nurses feel they must speak anonymously, for fear of their jobs.</p>
<p>Bay, what are you going to do with the US passport holders ?</p>
<p>news showed a rather dramatic police escort of the second nurse from the local commuter airport to Emory. They reported that the 3 people with whom she came in contact are being monitored. And they are confirming that some employee at the CDC did approve her flying on the commercial flight. They are also reporting that on day 9 of exposure a patient may have flu-like symptoms (fever, chills, etc) and on day 10 they can get more fulminant symptoms with high fever, rash, nausea, vomiting, etc. The nurse was shown walking on her own power to the ambulance. </p>
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<p>That seems like a rather drastic measure. I have a feeling they would all have stayed put if told not to travel. I don’t see the usual negligence here. According to the evening news, Vinson was not told not to travel. I don’t know if she have known better as a nurse than CDC and not travel with her fever. Would a nurse know better at what point she becomes infectious?</p>
<p>Local EMT here says they don’t have PPE should they have to transport an Ebola patient.</p>
<p>Wow, can’t seem to please you igloo!
They are saying that the staff person ok’d the nurse flying from Cleveland because her temp (99 something) was below the threshold (101 something) used at airport screenings, so felt it was ok. They are still saying she was not otherwise symptomatic. They know her seat assignment and have photos of her, so presumable the flight attendants were asked if they remembered anything about her seeming to not feel well. All the ID talking heads are saying the risk of infection to anyone on the flight is extremely low.</p>
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I don’t know. But if we are going to spend millions treating Ebola patients that travel here from Africa, we ought to give our own citizens priority. </p>
<p>According to news here, no one was told not to travel. In other words, the nurse wasn’t breaking any rule unlike Dr. Nancy.</p>
<p>They said that the second nurse left Friday for Cleveland to plan her upcoming wedding before knowing that her colleague had been admitted to Dallas Presby that same day (her status wasn’t released publicly until Sunday). </p>
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<p>Please make your arguments without ad hominem remarks towards other members.</p>
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<p>Priority in treatment? Doesn’t it strike you as a bad idea to refuse treatment to anyone with Ebola, regardless of citizenship?</p>
<p>The point is that local entities are the ones who have the power to declare the emergency so that they can swiftly take measures that are beyond ordinary recommendations. Local EMTs need to look to their own controlling entities for PPEs. If they are run by the county, the county should provide them. If the county is lacking in resources they declare an emergency and bring more outside resources to bear.</p>
<p>Oh please. Dial it back a bit. Was observing that first you wanted the flights stopped, and now Dallas’s declaring an emergency, which allows them to have some choice in travel restrictions, is too much. Its actually kinda funny.</p>
<p>No it doesn’t LasMa, not if those other people are not present within our borders. </p>
<p>Glad we are covered here, saintfan!</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Local-caregivers-say-theyre-prepared-to-treat-Ebola-patients-279083661.html?mobile=y”>http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Local-caregivers-say-theyre-prepared-to-treat-Ebola-patients-279083661.html?mobile=y</a></p>
<p>"Harborview officials say they’ve got an abundance of protective gear for staff, including gloves, goggles, respirator masks and full body suits. The hospital also has 20 negative-pressure rooms for treating patients with infectious diseases. The rooms prevent any air from escaping.</p>
<p>A new protocol requires all personnel to have another staff member observing as they put on and take off protective gear to make sure nothing has touched bare skin or another surface.</p>
<p>Stewart says she and fellow care givers are indeed closely watching developments out of Dallas.</p>
<p>“I don’t know what happened yet, and I’m a firm believer in that we need to find that out and learn from that,” she said. “I know that the hospitals are communicating, at least from what I’ve heard,” </p>
<p>Stewart is confident once the information comes out it will be used to make all hospitals safer. </p>
<p>Those who train people to handle hazardous materials say it’s critical for medical professionals to practice the infectious disease control procedures they’ve learned. "</p>
<p>Wow the thread is moving quickly. Two posts jumped in before my response posted. Apologies if anyone was confused.</p>