<p>Um… don’t cargo ships take weeks, at the very least, to get to Africa? And how far are the ports from the stricken areas (a less important question, but just wondered…)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.ynhh.org/news/press-release-detail.aspx?story=11003”>http://www.ynhh.org/news/press-release-detail.aspx?story=11003</a></p>
<p>Yale New Haven Hospital evaluating a patient with Ebola-like symptoms. </p>
<p>The article says you are unlikely to encounter a symptomatic person on a plane. It doesn’t address the risk of bringing tens or hundreds of asymptomatic carriers into the country. </p>
<p>jym, again the only reason they cite in your link against ban is impeding aids,</p>
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<p>We already solved that problem. Anything else?</p>
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<p>Why is that surprising, given what the supposedly smartest guy on the topic is saying?</p>
<p>He cannot even answer the basic question honestly if you can catch it on a bus. You really have to be in the tank to take this logic seriously. After all of this answer, the answer is yes, but he never tells people that directly. That is negligent, in my book, and just as stupid as the healthcare worker going on the plane.</p>
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<p><a href=“http://cnsnews.com/news/article/brittany-m-hughes/cdc-you-can-give-can-t-get-ebola-bus”>http://cnsnews.com/news/article/brittany-m-hughes/cdc-you-can-give-can-t-get-ebola-bus</a></p>
<p>Just imagine the costs, economic, medical, psychological of just ten Duncans in this country. There are only 19 beds in the Ebola isolation units in this country. </p>
<p>If airline stocks tank enough, I wonder if the other airlines will pressure the two that fly in and out of Liberia to cease. </p>
<p>Two schoolchildren were on the same flight as Vinson.
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<p>I also saw a Daily Mail article that claims that the restaurant that Dr Snyderman broke quarantine to visit has lost almost all its customers.</p>
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<p>Nigeria did it. You’re saying Nigeria figured it out and we can’t?</p>
<p>I wonder if Snyderman will return to the air. She is hardly in a position to be lecturing anyone on health advice anymore. </p>
<p>Sure let’s do what Nigeria did. I welcome anything. How did they do it? Let’s do exactly that.</p>
<p>I think the only thing which will come from banning travel is a false sense of security - but if it makes you all feel better I suggest you contact your Representatives expressing your position, as just saying it on a message board does nothing to change our official position. </p>
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<p>I have had this conversation and the institutional investors are about to tell the airlines something tomorrow on the issue and will give the airplanes a specific choice, if they continue to follow a policy that damages their companies’ values.</p>
<p>To put in perspective, the money lost in the tanking of airline stocks alone was more than enough to lease 40 Boeing airplanes and fly them continuously for several years ferrying medical personnel and supplies in and out. Therefore, we already spent the money (lost it) without getting a darn thing for it. </p>
<p>Which makes more sense - Charter the dedicated planes and NOT wreak economic havoc across industries or stupidly use commercial travel that will eventually force layoffs at the airline, followed by hotels etc.? Hum… tough question there isn’t it? (Yes, I am being flippant)</p>
<p>EDIT: I wish I said this, but one exec thinks that much of this will change when people realize that their policies are resulting in the laying of their middle class colleagues and family members because they never thought ahead re the economic impact. The rich are going to make out like bandits because depressed real estate and depressed company stocks are money-making opportunities. I do not fully share this optimism, but it would be an optimal result and karma if people get hit personally with the effects caused by their policies. </p>
<p>Here’s an overview of Nigeria’s experience:<a href=“Nigeria and Senegal on the verge of being declared Ebola-free: Can we learn anything from their success?”>http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/10/15/nigeria_and_senegal_on_the_verge_of_being_declared_ebola_free_can_we_learn.html</a></p>
<p>Adding also that Nigeria has fight restrictions from infected countries. </p>
<p>Interesting, AW.</p>
<p>Ironically, the incompetence at all levels in dealing with just one Ebola patient has heightened calls for a stop to issuing visas to Liberians and the others.</p>
<p>I’m going to send a message a few Tuesdays from today.</p>
<p>It’s a little odd to me that humanitarian aid workers wouldn’t prefer chartered flights, which not only can provide safer travel for the workers, but prevent additional non-citizen ebola carriers from entering our country. It almost seems selfish, ironically, that they would prefer convenience over safety to others. </p>
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<p>Wasn’t it all we wanted? Let’s do Nigeria.</p>
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Well how many of them, as individuals, would really want that? Versus how many would want that for everyone else. The opposition is about the self -esteem of certain people feeling more sophisticated than and different from the great unwashed, hysterical masses.</p>
<p>“I have had this conversation and the institutional investors are about to tell the airlines something tomorrow on the issue and will give the airplanes a specific choice, if they continue to follow a policy that damages their companies’ values.”</p>
<p>Which US airlines fly from any of the affected countries? </p>
<p>As far as I can tell only three airlines are still flying out of those countries - Air France, Brussels Air and Royal Air Maroc. </p>
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<p>Iglooo, frugaldoctor addressed this in post #832. I’d recommend you read the entire post. Here’s part of it:</p>
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<p>Perhaps you could explain to us why you feel you know more about this situation than frugaldoctor, who is not only an MD but is actually IN the hot zone.</p>