<p>Well, I see a lot of discussion here about strategic course-taking in order to preserve grade averages, and the number of students who are AP National Scholars by the end of junior year is still only in the hundreds worldwide.</p>
<p>anyone know washington University in st. Louis (washu) 's gpa “cutoff?”, off to commondata set possibly to return!</p>
<p>Really? Are you serious?</p>
<p>That just made my day!</p>
<p>There is also the geographic consideration. If there is a dearth of really top high schools in an area (let’s say wyoming for ex), the opportunities/gpa/test scores might read very differently than those from ny, nj, ct. But as I understand it, colleges typically unweight weighted GPA and refigure it based on their numbers anyway which makes taking easier courses just to maintain a GPA kinda short sighted (unless you are talking huge state universities who pretty much number crunch for admittance). But to the point, this is why you wouldn’t see average GPA’s at HYP above a 4.0 while there are plenty of kids whose high schools might consider a 4.0 nothing short of ordinary.</p>
<p>These data really shock me. I have a 3.5 and I’m nearly top 5%. At these schools where 83% are from the top 10% but only 3% have less than a 3.75, where do I stand?</p>
<p>My friend go into Princeton with a 3.7. </p>
<p>But he’s also low income, does obscure ECs, killer essays and took a ton of college courses “for fun”.</p>
<p>The people at the best colleges who have a 3.7 or less:
a. Are minorities/athletes
b. Are “development admits”
c. Go to the elite private high schools/boarding schools where all the kids in a class are top notch and there is rampant grade deflation to combat everyone having a 4.0.</p>
<p>“And thank them for that! Academics are a worthy pursuit, but without life experience and wonder it makes for a pretty awful excuse for a human being, especially a young one. Colleges really do sift through the numbers for personalities; some of those personalities may turn out to be just numbers–extremely proficient numbers–but some are something altogether different. And believe me, they are recognizable.”</p>
<p>Yes. I hope this thread doesn’t turn into a excuse-filled haven for number kids who don’t get into their reach schools.</p>
<p>Surprise by the data you’ve listed. I thought Princeton had probably accepted no students with a GPA below a 3.5. Though I’m not surprise many of these schools do, just a very small percentage.</p>
<p>I don’t understand how University of Chicago and Vanderbilt have nearly identical class rank composition, but one has about 40% more from below 3.75.</p>
<p>^ That may reflect a different view of grades from high school, or it may reflect the SAME view of grades from high school but applied to applicant pools who come from high schools that aren’t the same.</p>
<p>To tokenadult:</p>
<p>I ask because I’m very safely within my top 10%, but I haven’t (yet) managed a 3.75, if that’s equivalent to a 92.5. What does that mean for me? I only ask because I’m very concerned about UChicago’s stats, as I had formerly taken that school as a harbor for kids who demonstrate exceptional ability but haven’t successfully played the grades game.</p>
<p>Lmao the real question is, how the heck can you get into Dartmouth with a 1.0-1.99 GPA? Must have been a big name applicant (like a daughter/son of a Congressman) or someone who donated a building.</p>
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<p>Must have been a really awesome idiot.</p>
<p>saveD:if u are applying to private colleges, they should be looking at your school’s profile to understand where you stand…that being said, if a college is GPA obsessed v rigor or rank, you will have a harder time…HYPS have so many 4.0uw they can afford to be picky; down the list, they may be more amenable to examining the grade deflated student/school. (last year, Vandy was the latter as was Wash U…)</p>
<p>It’s very good advice to look at as much information as the college itself publishes about this issue, which is more complete for some colleges than for others.</p>
<p>LOL, saveD.</p>
<p>but um, yeah…do we know if these GPAs are weighted or unweighted yet? :/</p>
<p>how exactly do u prove minority status?..just the little box u check off?</p>
<p>And I thought this thread would give a list of good colleges that above average (in real world standards, not CC standards) people could get into. The title is pretty misleading…</p>
<p>this is reassuring
however i have a question
how important is consistency in grades?</p>
<p>what i mean is…freshman year my gpa was about 3.72 unweighted, that’s with 2 ap courses (max offered)
last year gpa about out 3.62 (got a b from math teacher who hated me, again 2 ap’s but no more offered)
this year gpa about 3.75 3 AP’s (i’m not in AP science, but rest of my courses are highest level offered)
next year i will be taking 4 AP courses and expect to get around a 3.8 (not taking science which has pulled my grades down, taking 2 histories instead)
anyway, the B in sophomore year really pulls down my gpa in general, however my gpa has improved and i expect it to keep improving even though my courses are getting harder</p>
<p>if my gpa is improving will colleges think only about my most recent grades or will they still consider the grades i got in previous years
what i mean is, if i get, for example, a 4.0 first half of senior year, will they think of me as a student with a 4.0 or will they look at my gpa overall
also do they prefer consistency or are they happy if you are improving</p>
<p>bumpy bump.</p>