Senator Allen Criticized for Alleged Racism

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<p>Incumbent U.S. Senator George Allen Jr. now faces statements from two more classmates that ‘he often made racist remarks’ when he was a undergraduate at U of Virginia. This revelation and the “macaca” coment last month have added controversy to Allen’s re-election campaign against Republican-turned-Democrat James Webb. Larry Sabato, the noted UVA political science professor (and a classmate of Allen’s) supported the report of Allen’s behavior at UVA.</p>

<p>The latest news and earlier descriptions of Allen’s obsession with the Confederacy, his awkwardness in disclosing his Jewish heritage and his general “faux bubba” persona have begun to burden him politically.</p>

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<p>Obviously, this revelation was politically timed and motivated, but nevertheless, I strongly suspect the allegation to be true.</p>

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<p>ALLEGED racism? Hah.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.slowpokecomics.com/strips/macaca.gif[/url]”>http://www.slowpokecomics.com/strips/macaca.gif&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>And an interesting writing about the use of the term “macaca/macaque” by white power groups in the US:</p>

<p><a href=“http://jeffrey-feldman.typepad.com/frameshop/2006/08/frameshop_macac.html[/url]”>http://jeffrey-feldman.typepad.com/frameshop/2006/08/frameshop_macac.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>If using a racial slur while in college is enough to disqualify you from the Senate, then certainly Sen. Byrd should be long gone. If racial stereotyping is also a disqualifier then Sen. Clinton and Biden would be gone. If being a misogynist is equal to having used a racial slur in college then Webb should bow out.</p>

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<p>Was Webb the “horny women” guy or am I thinking of someone else?</p>

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<p>The same person also alleges that Sen. Allen put a SEVERED DEER’S HEAD IN A BLACK FAMILY’S MAILBOX. That’s over the line, should it prove true.</p>

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<p>“The same person also alleges that Sen. Allen put a SEVERED DEER’S HEAD IN A BLACK FAMILY’S MAILBOX. That’s over the line, should it prove true.”</p>

<p>That’s not over the line. It is criminal. Do you know if the source is credible or reported this in a timely manner?</p>

<p>Speaking of George Allen, what did you all think of the “Jew” line of questioning of him at the debate? Why would that even be relevant?</p>

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<p>Fundingfather, your critique and comparison to Senator Byrd is completely out of context and misplaced. If the Allen story is true, his intent (at the very least) was derision and insult. Byrd, yes a former Klansman, was candid about how the word was used in by his generation in his community. The situations are unalike. And I suspect that Allen neither has the character to admit to past white supremacist bias, unlike Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black, an ex-Klansman like Byrd who thoroughly renounced and made historic amends for his earlier racist flirtations.</p>

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<p>The thing is we know that Byrd and Black were Klansmen, but we do not know anything about what Allen did or did not say. If Allen did say such a thing, it is unacceptable. You know what, though? The “horny women” comment was really offensive to me. Not to mention vulgar. Where do you stand on that comment?</p>

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<p>Webb apologized for his remarks. At least he didn’t claim to have made up the word ‘horny’ a la ‘macaca’</p>

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<p>The pattern does not tell me one way or another whether he is a racist (I presume that he is, but that’s not particularly odd) but that he lacks capacities for truthfulness, and is uncomfortable with the truth. Just made “Macaca” up? We DO know what he said. Oh, please. Jewish mother makes pork chops? What’s that about? We DO know what he said. Hangs Confederate flags in his dorm room and uses the “N” word? Does he really want to fight a media battle with Larry Sabato? (He’ll lose.) Sorry, but Larry’s good by me. We DO know what he said.</p>

<p>OF COURSE it is all politically motivated. It should be. It is directly relevant to his capacities for understanding and responding compassionately and honestly to his constituency.</p>

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<p>GLA if Allen apologized, would that be enough for you? Is it ok with you that candidates are as blatantly misogynistic as Webb? Plus vulgar.</p>

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<p>The truth is a partisan concern.</p>

<p>We only care about truth from Democrats (those lying pieces of scum). Republicans? Pfffft. They make mistakes.</p>

<p>(on edit…had to add a little winky smiley) ;)</p>

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<p>I agree with Mini’s points, completely. The (possible) untruthfulness disturbs me more than the fact he is a confederate sympathyzer who may be a bigot. The latter is no surprise, considering confirmed past behavior.</p>

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<p>I liked his stance on education in Virginia. However, having seen the macaca clip, and based on that alone, I don’t think I could bring myself to vote for him (although I don’t have to worry about it, since I don’t live in that state). It’s additionally outrageous that he apparently thinks we would believe that he’d made the word up, or that he never heard of the word. The other instances are from the past, and are probably politically motivated. However, the macaca controversy he brought upon himself very recently.</p>

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<p>yes, i would be willing to forgive Allen if he sincerely apologized and was truthful.</p>

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<p>Apparently Larry’s doing a little backpedaling. In an email sent to the AP on Tuesday Larry Sabato wrote, “I didn’t personally hear GFA say the n-word”.</p>

<p>So since GFA’s from the South and he’s a Republican…well, yeah, he must have said it.</p>

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<p>"The truth is a partisan concern.</p>

<p>We only care about truth from Democrats (those lying pieces of scum). Republicans? Pfffft. They make mistakes."</p>

<p>Who said that? Also, I notice that some of you are ignoring the “horny women” comment. Why is that/</p>

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<p>I don’t excuse the horny woman comment either.</p>

<p>I can’t stand partisan bickering, racism, misoginism, etc. I don’t excuse a single one of these remarks, but I do notice that people tend to excuse their own party members’ with great ease.</p>

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<p>Not all of us. ;)</p>