Senior Washed Up Girls at Yale

<p>Either that, or they will need three times as many partners? (when they are between the ages of 12 and 27.) And that seems to be exactly what has happened. Your science is very good. ;)</p>

<p>(The bigger problem is avoiding being raped.)</p>

<p>the “low return” has MUCH more to do with physiology than psychology. most young women simply don’t understand their bodies well enough (i won’t go into details…). has nothing to do with self esteem unless they’ve bought into the ‘bad girl’ ideology forced on them via a repressed society.</p>

<p>You can make of it what you will. If you believe young women are enjoying the hook up culture they are being offered today? Awesome.</p>

<p>I just feel the need to post 2 things:</p>

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<li><p>Not everybody who refuses to have casual sex for religious reasons is “repressed.” They just have different values than you do. </p></li>
<li><p>This is not just a Yale thing. [SWUG</a> Life: A Harvard Tutorial](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>SWUG Life: A Harvard Tutorial | HuffPost Women)</p></li>
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<p>Which basically means five times with the one truly attentive partner and not at all with the other 13 or 14? Well, at least it becomes obvious who to pursue for a repeat engagement!</p>

<p>when you try to force your ‘values’ on other people, then you are both repressed and practicing or attempting to repress/oppress or otherwise control other people who don’t share your ‘values’. and i don’t like that.</p>

<p>This is the APA study.</p>

<p>[Sexual</a> hook-up culture](<a href=“http://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/02/ce-corner.aspx]Sexual”>Sexual hook-up culture)</p>

<p>Five times?
That’s a lot of pressure.</p>

<p>“You can make of it what you will. If you believe young women are enjoying the hook up culture they are being offered today? Awesome.”</p>

<p>They are doing exactly what the science would have predicted.</p>

<p>(Remember that the so-called “psychological consequences” of casual sex are actually the consequences of earlier puberty and later marriage.)</p>

<p>Oh. Kay. Good to know, Mini. ;)</p>

<p>Just wow. “Hookup culture” seems to imply to some that a girl goes off with any guy, any time. That she doesn’t have free will. That ignorance or emotional needs drive her decisions. That sex outside a defined relationship is an esteem issue.</p>

<p>the thing is that most of us in the west frown on female genital mutilation…but our religious ‘values’ and cultural shaming effectively are the same thing (psychically) for women. right here.</p>

<p>The trouble with these studies are the definitions: there is no way to distinguish between the hookup where one met someone in a bar and disappeared into a bathroom stall 15 minutes later and another which involves a close friendship that also results in the occasional mutually-satisfying booty call.</p>

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<p>Actually, it’s a little bit of targeted pressure and a lot of patience. ;)</p>

<p>From the APA study:</p>

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<p>I did a sexual activity survey of college women, my senior year. It mirrored Kinsey and the follow-up done in the late 60s or so. Sex happens. For many gals, first in a relationship. And when that relationship ended, in the next and the next. Commitment isn’t, in itself, at that age, some assurance that there won’t be multiple partners, over time.</p>

<p>I don’t think on any level that the number of sexual partners is even an issue. </p>

<p>I’m not talking about serial monogomy. I’m talking about hook ups and one night stands. And I also, LI, don’t think many young women categorize friends with benefits as “hook ups,” either.</p>

<p>I also don’t consider friends with benefits , on par with sex with strangers.
You can’t convince me that anonymous physical intimacy is empowering.
More like reckless & dangerous.</p>

<p>Looking for Mr Goodbar? Are we talking that level?</p>

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<p>That’s just plain stupid sex. I wonder what percentage of these encounters take place with those who are ostensibly already in a committed relationship with another partner not immediately present? The alcohol as the excuse to “cheat.”</p>

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<p>The right to feel it’s OK to have anonymous physical intimacy can be empowering. And it may be just the ticket on that Cancun Spring Break getaway. But if it becomes a regular thing rather than a playful experiment then certainly it becomes a crutch. </p>

<p>Both men and women need more than just sex. Not necessarily romance, but at least snuggles and cuddles, a partner who listens and one that takes pleasure in giving you pleasure. These important extras are seldom found in one-night-stands.</p>

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<p>LF, the APA study I linked on the last page, led by a Kinsey researcher defines what level I am talking about. It is a wide study, and the full article can be downloaded if you want to wade through it. This is a summary, but not an astract.</p>