My son got a notice today that his overdue taxes are due. He filed for the 120 day extension and we printed out the 120 day payment plan confirmation. Can’t figure out how to tell if the IRS actually has him down for the plan or not. The payment wouldn’t be due yet, but he got a notice. We could never figure out how to “log in” to check the status. Its ok, his interest in only about $6 and the penalty is about $12 on a liability of $1200. I assume the smae peantly and interest would accrue monthly until he pays it off by August. It would be nice tok now if this is the same for everybody, or if the amounts are due to his 120 day payment plan.
ANyway, the part that gets me is that the IRS sedns the notice with the amount he owed for 2014 and his balance due, along iwth is address and his FULL SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER!
OK, where is the edit button? I wasn’t done and didn’t proofread or edit! Somehow posted by accident before I was ready. The inclusion of SS # is beyond stupid in the US mail. Hey, identity thief, IRS notices are going out, go steal some mail!
S3 just got one too demanding full payment by end of month, and he is on a payment plan. A previous notice said that they has received “communication” about a plan. Yeah, the communication is the payments. He is not sure what to do. And yep - full SS# and of course name and address on it.
@Singersmom07, is his for a lot of $? I will let son decide and my advisement will be that I would expect the penalty and interest ($18) to be the same for each month. I think it might even be less because this initial period was more than 30 days. I’m sure he forgot about it and doesn’t want to part with $1200 his month! I tried to login for him, but it only gave the option of setting up direct debit or other methods of payment. It seemed like that would be for a “payment plan” for which there is a fee. The 120 day extension to pay had no fee, only interest. It is the “failure to pay” penalty of $12 that I didn’t’ expect to see and has me wondering if they have the 120 day plan recorded. On the back of the first page it tellsh ow to get a payment plan, so I guess the bill is not requiring payment in full although the “amount due” would lead you to believe that it is.
Yup, that’s how they operate. They send out threatening letters weeks after making payment arrangements. Yet they don’t seem accountable to anyone nor do they seem to impose these penalties across the board. (let’s take a look at some of our elected officials or Timothy Geithner and Al Sharpton and their mysterious allowance for tax avoidance) It’s not exactly the brightest bulbs working there, most of the time you call and they have to transfer to person after person to find someone who knows anything.
I am the treasurer for our church. A couple of months ago, the IRS wrote that they had received the AMENDED 941 quarterly return we sent them back in November 2013, but they needed the ORIGINAL. ?!? Whatever - I sent it in. They just sent another letter stating that our 941 returns don’t match what’s shown on our tax return, and we owe about $2,000. The difference, surprise, comes from their not including either the original 941 return or the amended one! Such incompetence. So now the church will have to pay the payroll company for their time in investigating the situation.
I hate seeing the IRS as a return address on any envelope…except a tax refund check. But since we use direct deposit for refunds…I just hate seeing the IRS return address. It’s never good news.
Son’s failure to pay penalty rate is .5%. With a payment plan it should be .25%. That’s only $5-6 month, but hey, its his $, not the IRS’s. Of course when you call you get the amazing recording that they have “unusually high call volume” and you should go online or call back. Great.
Grandmom says he should just pay it off. She doesn’t get that he doesn’t want to write a big check if he can delay it, but she’s right, as usual. He does have the $.
I agree with Dr.Google & eyemamom. It’s much more than incompetence, MaineLonghorn. It’s arrogance. It is never THEIR fault. I can’t tell you how many times we’ve faxed or sent by mail info. to them, which somehow they ‘never’ receive. It’s always the taxpayers fault. They are not only idiots and incompetent, but they are incredibly arrogant. Then they tack on interest & penalty charges at ridiculous rates. There is not one federal dept. I hate more than the IRS. They don’t work with you, care if it’s their mistake or what. It is all one sided. We’ve even sent “return receipt requested”, where someone needs to sign for the envelope and they STILL manage to misplace it. Who the hell do they hire?!
There is so much abuse in the tax system, it would make your head spin. But us little guys get away with nothing. There are probably millions of tax evaders/avoiders out there. We get such headaches dealing with them for such small tax returns, but do they go after the people that owe thousands & millions?! I think not.
The fact that their ss# is on there is incredibly ridiculous & disturbing.
OP, I think Grandmom is right. If he has the money, why not be rid of it once and for all? Then forever more, whenever they contact him, he has a cancelled check to show them.
I’m not a fan of the IRS either, but that’s the nature of bureaucracies. Just in my personal experience of recordkeeping snafus, I’d rather deal with the IRS than with Anthem.
@Patsam It is a lot of money to him. He is a bar tender and the restaurant had not been withholding correctly. He does not have the extra money which is why he did the payment plan.
@LasMa - it is far more dangerous to have to deal with the IRS than an insurance company. The IRS can ruin your life. You have a choice at some level with the insurance company.
Just because some of the bigger wheels lied to congress, is no reason to make the rest of the nation suffer through reduced staffing at the IRS. If anything, there should have simply been a serious housecleaning, and a whole bunch of new hires should have been taken on.
So not true. Our Health Insurance Company, United Healthcare, is definitely ruining my life and my health. I would way rather deal with the IRS. At least they eventually fix the problem. UHC manages to find new ways to mess up every single month for the last five years.
Having said that though, our small company got an IRS notice that we owe $18.08 for our 2014 940. They’re wrong but it’s not worth my time to spend hours getting that fixed. I’m paying it.
It’s not just the IRS. It’s any large corporation. Having that many employees means you’re going to have some that are incompetent and just don’t care. So hard to get good help.
I did not have a choice about Anthem’s inadequate protection of my data, and the resulting breach, which spread my name, SSN, DOB, and other sensitive info all over the dark net. Not just mine, but my husband’s, my daughter’s, my 91-year-old mother’s, my deceased father’s, and 80 million other Americans’. Yours too, if you or a family member were a subscriber anytime after 2004.
At least the IRS can’t deny you medical treatment which your doctor says you need. Anthem can, and does. @3bm103 is right; insurance companies ruin a lot of lives.
