Seven Sisters vs State School

^ I agree with Hanna on this. The Seven Sisters network is more powerful than IU’s network and no one’s guaranteed jobs, but coming from an elite college can help… especially for someone who’s thinking of the careers OP is talking about.

I didn’t mention BMC because I didn’t know and didn’t have time to look, but you can type Bryn Mawr and career center or internships or co-ops and see what turns up.

Thank you, everyone, for your replies! Update halfway through my college visits:

I visited Holyoke Sunday and Monday until noon, and I enjoyed my time there. My host was fantastic, and I made friends with a few other great prospies. The campus was gorgeous and I spent so much time in the library. However, we talked to a fin aid officer, and while she said we could file for re-evaluation if we wanted, it was EXTREMELY unlikely that we would get any more. When I left campus, I felt pretty indifferent–I liked it just fine, but that was it. Considering the fact that I would have ED’d to this school if it weren’t for costs, I expected to be more enthusiastic.

Since we had a free day, we went over to Northampton at 2 and took a quick tour of campus. I was surprised at how much I liked the campus–it seemed like a “normal” college campus and not like Wellesley, Bryn Mawr, or Holyoke’s gorgeous bucolic setting. Coming from a town where the downtown is literally only a CVS, a post office, a gas station, and “town hall,” Northampton seemed bustling and adorable. This morning, my dad dropped me off at the campus and I spent four hours wandering the campus as if I belonged there, talking to a couple students, exploring the dance facilities, doing some homework in the library, walking around town, etc. Everyone was so friendly, and a few people like a coffee shop employee especially just had five minute conversations with me because of the shirt I was wearing or something. I ADORED Smith! I was so surprised, as I very very nearly did not apply to Smith a few months ago, and didn’t particularly care for it before I visited. We drove down to Philly in the afternoon for Bryn Mawr’s accepted student day tomorrow, and all I can think about is how much I want to be back in Northampton. I’ll be back there Friday for the accepted student day, though.

I haven’t visited Bryn Mawr yet, but we walked around the town area a bit and ate dinner there. And honestly, I didn’t feel very…comfortable. I’m sure the college is different, but I hadn’t realized that bryn mawr is SUCH a wealthy town, full of elementary schools that are fancier than the rich neighborhoods where I live. I was quite honestly intimidated, and the town and people that we saw just seemed, I don’t know, uppity. It just didn’t seem as welcoming as Northampton. I’m probably overreacting, I’m not sure. I’m concerned that my general feelings for the town will cloud my judgement of the school itself. I mean, I don’t know if that’s something that I’ll get used to. i don’t want to go to a college where I feel like a second-class citizen though. I don’t know. Am I overreacting? :confused:

@MYOS1634 @Hanna @happymomof1 @staceyneil @doschicos @juillet @redpoodles I’m thrilled to call myself a Mawrter 2019! Thank you so much for all of your help!

How did you decide?

in any case CONGRATULATIONS!

Congrats! Report back on what you saw for future prospies!

@literallyleslie - Congrats! It’s a beautiful place and strong academics. I wish you a 4 happy years at Bryn Mawr, and at its Bi-Co buddy, Haverford! :slight_smile: Thanks for letting us know. Sounds like you have a whirlwind week of visits. Love to here about how you made your decision. Your previous update was a bit of a cliffhanger. :wink: What did you think of Bryn Mawr’s dance dept? Did you get over to Haverford at all?

I am sure its a relief to have things settled.

@MYOS1634 @redpoodles So I should just start out by saying that I had a horrific time making this decision, but I wanted to decide as soon as possible after my visits so my feeling of the campus will still fresh in my mind, but knowing me I’ll decide tomorrow that I want to go to Smith, then ultimately end up at Bryn Mawr, but here’s my reasonings:

Everyone at Bryn Mawr was extremely friendly. I know this is usually brought up, but something as simple as my pulling out a map or wandering slowly around a campus building looking for a class would bring three Bryn Mawr students to my aid without my even asking. I sat in on a ballet class and was quite honestly horrified, but I ambushed one girl who had good technique and she spent fifteen minutes talking to me about the advanced level of the ballet program and giving me the names of other studios and opportunities they had for dancers, even though that made her late giving another group of prospies a tour (whoops). My hosts were wonderful and introduced us to all their friends, who were all super excited to see us prospies and dropped what they were doing to come talk to us, they made sure we saw everything on campus we wanted to, and just in general were really welcoming. One of the biggest things I was looking for was “Could I be friends with these people?” and at Bryn Mawr, they were all very enthusiastic, obviously loved each other, and just had fantastic relationships with the other students. Oh, and the food is way, way better than what I eat on a regular basis! I loved loved loved the professors in the classes I sat in on, and they all talked to me afterwards and told me about their programs and the opportunities. They also “yelled” at me because I tried to sit in the back corner of the class and they pulled me up near the front to sit next to the students, introduced me to them, and included me in class. The students were all unafraid to speak up and ask questions, and laughed and had obviously comfortable, close-knit relationships with the profs.

Tuesday night before I visited Bryn Mawr I was sure I wanted to commit to Smith. But I had an overnight Thursday, and well, I know that I shouldn’t judge the whole student body based on my experiences, but it just wasn’t that great. My host and her friends hardly talked to us prospies, and it was very boring and dull. At Bryn Mawr, the students were laughing and dancing and studying together in the common rooms, outside, in the cafe. But at Smith, I saw a lot of people studying alone shut up in their rooms, or just sitting by themselves. It wasn’t a very lively, cheerful atmosphere. Two of my host’s friends promised to walk me to a building I needed to find this morning, as it was on the opposite side of campus and I had never been to it before. Neither of them showed up. I ended up wandering the campus by myself trying to find it (I did, eventually). The students didn’t talk much in the class I sat in on, but on the plus side I really, really liked the prof. He was very engaging and likable. I talked to quite a few other professors in departments I’m interested in, and I would LOVE to be in their classes, but I just didn’t have good experiences with the students. I tried talking to a couple current students who were supposed to be “ambassadors” about the student life there, and they were just surprisingly snide and rude. Haha oh, and my host took me on a quick tour of the house, and a couple students doing homework in their room saw her talking to me. They asked if I was a prospective student, and my host said yes and asked if they wanted to talk to me or anything. They both said “Nooo. No. we like…we don’t want to talk to her.” and I was literally standing right in front of them. Which was honestly funny on its own, but combined with the rest of my experiences with the student body it just…I don’t have a favorable impression of the school. (Note that I did spend a few minutes talking to one guy about his housing experiences, and he was super nice and I enjoyed talking to him so that was good.) I’m not easily bothered my people and I find it really easy to make friends, so the fact that I was so miserable with the students and just had a bad vibe about it was a big turn off.

Um, so yeah, there’s a lot more but that’s the gist of it. I know, I know, the student body as a whole at Smith isn’t like that. But I interacted with A LOT of students trying to get a more balanced view, and it still just…didn’t. I was disappointed, because I wanted so badly to like Smith, and I guess I realized that I was making excuses and trying so hard to convince myself that yeah, I’d like it, and yeah, I’d fit in. And I’d rather attend a school where I know that I’m welcomed and that I’d enjoy than spend the summer trying to convince myself that I’d be a great fit for the school I liked on paper. Don’t get me wrong, I’m way excited to attend Bryn Mawr, I just wish that I didn’t have to make this decision because Smith was so disappointing. I mean, if anyone has anything else to add that might help I’d really welcome it. I know a lot of people love Smith, and it’s too bad I can’t overcome my bad impression because I’m sure I would love it too.
I really really love Bryn Mawr though and I’m so happy to be able to call it my home for the next four years! It’s just the best place for me and I adore the people, and the campus, and just everything about it!

@doschicos oops, I spent a really long time writing that last post and didn’t see your comment :smiley:
Thank you so much! I honestly really wasn’t that impressed with BMC’s ballet department, but I was told the advanced level has girls who danced at ABT and choreographed in NYC, so apparently that level has much higher standards. The modern program, though, is really great, so I’ll probably try that. Also, some girls take classes at The Rock school sometimes, so if I have time that would be a great opportunity! Haha, I also think that I’m going to want to try new clubs and get out of my comfort zone in college, so as much as I hate to say it I think it will be smarter of me to drastically cut back on ballet :frowning: But it’ll be fun! I didn’t get the chance to tour Haverford, unfortunately, but we did drive by it. There were quite a few Haverbros on campus though, and everyone seemed to get along and was well-integrated! :wink:

@literallyleslie - I love the gusto with which you attacked your campus visits! I have a feeling you will be a big powerhouse at Bryn Mawr or any school. Thanks for sharing and congrats again!

I know IU has a strong dance program: a friend whose D is a serious ballet dancer (but wants to major in biology) only applied to IU and Vassar due to their dance offerings. IU’s ballet program was stronger.

@PiccoloMom1995 yeah, I realized too late that Vassar would have been a perfect option for me. Oh well! And well, I liked IU, but I wouldn’t be a dance major or minor or anything, and their course offerings for non-majors wasn’t that great honestly…

Our Vassar friend (freshman this year) is somewhat disappointed in their dance offerings. She’s one of the better dancers and was hoping fir a more challenging experience. She likes the ballet instructor though and had worked with her in high school during a summer dance session at SUNY Purchase, I think.