shady practices at hopkins?

<p>just curious, but it seems odd, i mean very odd that JHU boasts a 95 percent acceptance rate to med school. However, comparable schools with comparable difficulty don't even have that high of an average, even including MIT. I have heard that JHU weeds out its kids and doesn't allow some kids to apply to med schools. Is this valid and as a prospective pre-med, I would reallly like to know, b/c if that is the case, JHU is crossed off my list like NOW.</p>

<p>From what I've heard, many of the top schools weed out kids to bolster good numbers (hello, all schools what to be ranked high and sound completely brilliant). I would like to think that JHU has such great numbers because of the research opportunities and the close-knit community in the undergraduate college, but I'm sure there is shady business everywhere. Don't cross out JHU just for that because I am quite positive every school does some sort of protecting-- you know, for the US News & World Report rankings.</p>

<p>I don't know if you can really call it a shady practice. Maybe a malpractice :eek:
There is definitely weeding out of pre-meds at most top schools, but it is probably done by "advising", and "counselling". Perhaps the higher the acceptance rate, the more the weeding out? Perhaps some of it is self-weeding, and flunking out of courses, or just getting such stinky grades on the classes that count.
But,the answer to your question is Yes.</p>

<p>This "shady" buisness you talk of happens at many of the top institutions. However, JHU is still a fantastic opportunity for pre-meds because of all of the research opportunities open to undergrads, plus they operate one of the finest medical centers that provides countless resources at your disposal. Besides, it is still one of the top feeders to med schools (with Harvard and Duke).</p>

<p>Also, MIT is known for as a physics/math/engineering school, it makes perfect sense they have fewer kids going to med school than a hopper or wash u or some of the ivies and such.</p>

<p>I mean I bet CalTech has pretty ****ty med school stats compared to hopkins.</p>

<p>but doesnt Hopkins grade deflate like crazy? so how come it has such a high acceptance rate to med school? cos ive heard that med and law are EXTREMELY numbers driven and usually the grade deflating schools(MIT, JHU etc) dont have such high acceptance rates. I heard that apart from Hopkins med school itself Hopkins does not place one well for other medschools? is 95% acceptance a reliable number? I hope its not the "shady business"</p>

<p>I think you guys are speculating way too much. Remember Hopkins pre-med is incredibly intense academically, so probably lots of people drop out from pre-med at Hopkins, which I guess you could call "weeding out". As for grade deflation, I dont think you should worry about that either. People going into one of the country's top pre-med programs will be at an advantage, not a disadvantage, whatever the way their grades are inflated or deflated.</p>

<p>also, if you wanna be premed, and you work really hard, there's no way they are gonna weed you out. you'll be one of the 95 percent going to med school.</p>

<p>I'm guessing that the "weeding out" is the reason that the percent of premeds among BME drops from 80% to 20% over 4 years. From what I've heard from students, the pre-med classes (Bio, Chem, O. Chem) are graded so that a certain percentage of students get A's/B's/C's etc. After four years, the med school applicant pool at a place like Hopkins is probably so self-selective that the students that apply are already the best of the best. So like best_wr said, if you really work hard through the pre-med curicullum, you'll be among that 90+%</p>

<p>hopkins is a school with a considerable reputation and a medical community that is second to none. the university will not endorse prospective candidates if they are not at par with the university's expectations. and this makes perfect sense. do u want a doctor who didn't take college seriously and didn't focus on his studies? of course not. hopkins will defend those candidates that it feels worked hard and deserve to have their support. people are so quick to blame "weeding out" as if it is a bad thing. it is the only thing we have in this country to help ensure that capable people advance while people who either can't handle or are not willing to handle the work do not. this is for everyone's benefit, and it makes perfect sense. cornell also cuts its pre-meds substantially. no university wants to lend its support to a student who has poor prospects.</p>