<p>"I made no comments in this vein. That should be obvious. If you think that I did, please find the quote that I made and repost it. "</p>
<p>Then what is your point? I am pretty slow. Obviously, there are several ways that can be used to harm/kill people. BTW, I already apologized.</p>
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<p>All signs suggest that he means to say that the existence of multiple means to attack precludes the usefulness of limiting any one of them. That’s all I can conceive he intends. But he has yet to say it and clearly believes more than he has stated. I hope this is remedied, because the suggestion as implicit is too difficult to counter, despite the salient need to, given its invalidity.</p>
<p>Why would I apologize? Egad eagle, how many people on this thread owe you an apology?</p>
<p>And demanding an apology is quite immature.</p>
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<p>I merely stated a fact. What you impute to my fact is purely from your imagination.</p>
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<p>I asked for evidence, not prattle.</p>
<p>If you can’t find anything, please apologize.</p>
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<p>I didn’t demand an apology. I’m sorry if you misconstrued it as a demand.</p>
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<p>Whereby you concede that you have additional belief in mind beyond your factual truism in post #319, obviating any need for me to apologize.</p>
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<p>Your denial seems to be illogical here. I can see no other reason why you would point out the potential fulfillment of each of those unknowns in response to my claim that their being unknown fatally compromises the speculative capacity of those for whom they are indeed unknowns. That you had no suggestion in your citation lacks credibility, for it would mandate that you were writing for no reason at all.</p>
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<p>I believe that 1+1=2 too. But stating a simple fact does not detract that I was only trying to make a simple point.</p>
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<p>That someone points out something that is factually true does not imply anything else.</p>
<p>Happens all the time in argumentation threads. And discussions between husbands and wives.</p>
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<p>It does more than “not detract”; it indeed furthers the original truism to the plane of relevance, which claim itself constitutes an additional point. If you could explain why the truism is relevant – i.e., why the further claim is true – it would advance this discussion from rhetorical ping pong into meaningful dialogue. </p>
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<p>To which I reply, subtext and intent. That a fact is shared renders it to be contextually more than that fact in its conveyance.</p>
<p>Sister Mary Elephant!!!</p>
<p>^ Well deserved. :)</p>
<p>Right on, 07DAD. After reading the last several pages of gobbledygook, I am beginning to understand the desire to own a gun (since I don’t know how to make a hand grenade… :rolleyes:)</p>
<p>"The FBI has caught many people trying to do the mass-murderer thing over the years. Do you think that they were dumb or smart? "
-I think that being genius or super dumb has nothing to do with killing innnocent people. Both super dumb and genius and many variations in between are doing it. Many they are pushed by too much brain, lack of or being average, we will never know. They seem to have one thing in common, they love attention and enjoy super celebrity status.</p>
<p>With the ease of buying guns in the US, I assume that it would be logistially easy for any of us to commit one or more murders, yet the vast majority of us do not. I would venture a guess that most of us have never been truly tempted to commit murder. Of the people who are tempted, who do consider it, but do not act, I wonder what percentage were deterred by the criminal penalty vs. moral considerations.</p>
<p>For a short, interesting article, Google “NAMI Colorado Tragedy.” NAMI is the National Alliance on Mental Illness. It’s a blog post, so I can’t show the link here. It discusses some warning signs of psychotic breaks. I’ve been dealing with this with my two sons, so unfortunately I have experience with it. The good news is that after some trial and error, the meds seem to be working well.</p>
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<p>I haven’t seen the interview with his neighbors downstairs re-aired at all, but the woman that lived below him said that at midnight his apartment started blaring techno music (uncharacteristic for him, apparently), and despite them yelling and whatnot it wouldn’t turn off. She then went upstairs, and knocked on the door to try and get him to turn it off. Nobody responded, so she tried the doorknob. It was unlocked. She said for some reason after cracking the door open she felt like she couldn’t go in, so she closed it and when back down to her apartment. At 1 AM the music stopped.</p>
<p>The explosives in his apartment weren’t meant for the police.</p>
<p>I just watched some tape of him in court earlier today…</p>
<p>just the expression on his face! I think he looks like…“what the hell did I get myself into!” It would be interesting to be able to read his mind today… a brilliant mind contemplating the rest of his life in solitary confinement instead of as a research scientist. Too #$@&!! smart for his own good!</p>
<p>RacinReaver, the Aurora police chief disagrees. He stated that they believe the apartment was booby trapped specifically to kill first responsders when neighbors complained about the music. Yes, it almost killed a neighbor, but you can see how most people would not open the door of a neighboring apartment (they might knock) if they had a complaint about the noise. Most people would call the police.</p>
<p>That said, I find it somewhat appalling that the Aurora police chief stated that he is especially angy because this was targeted at first reponders. So that is somehow worse than targeting innocent neighbors??</p>
<p>I was wondering how he managed to get out of the apartment and set the booby trap to start with. How do you close the door with a tripwire that is set to trigger something when the door is opened?</p>
<p>Also… I read that this may be a capital crime, so he may end up with the death penalty. I didn’t see any details, just that one comment. So he may be contemplating something other than life in prison.</p>
<p>“I just watched some tape of him in court earlier today…just the expression on his face! I think he looks like…“what the hell did I get myself into!”*”</p>
<p>Interesting. I was wondering what might be going through his mind too. He looked very confused to me. I also wondered if they might have medicated him.</p>
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<p>That’s how strawman arguments come about - which is really what we
have here. I just didn’t feel like grabbing a CnP from Wikipedia.</p>
<p>I agree with LMH, I think this young man sufferered a psychotic break, with voices, etc. I suspect he did well as an UG, living near parents. Being away from home, stress of grad school, added to insecurities. </p>
<p>To repeat myself, his frenetic buying of guns and ammunition should have triggered a police call. He could have been hospitalized, and many innocent lives saved.</p>