<p>“Capital punishment is not a deterrent”
-Yes, it is a big one. And all other real punishments are also deterrents. Capital is more than any other, just because there is no other chance for a killer to kill again, unless he can return from dead, well then, I rest my case, you are correct.</p>
<p>That’s sad. America still is , and always will be the leading nation for number of incarcerated individuals. </p>
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<p>Young couple living far away from helpful parents who could babysit? Cost of babysitting to add to a movie? Difficulty getting a young babysitter at … midnight? </p>
<p>And think about that babysitter who charges 943 dollars in the Quicken Loan commercials!</p>
<p>I disagree that capital punishment is a deterrent. Yes, it could stop them from committing the crime AGAIN but not initially. You’re thinking rationally “I don’t want to kill these people because I’ll die.” People like this do not think rationally. Especially the ones who WANT to die. Suicide by police.</p>
<p>I am so sadden by this tragic event. When I think of how many of these midnight shows D has gone to over the last few years. I just can’t even imagine the confussion and fear this must have been for these folks. </p>
<p>All of these families will be in my prayers!</p>
<p>"That’s sad. America still is , and always will be the leading nation for number of incarcerated individuals. "
-Yes, and we will see more and more of these type of killings and much worse ones. Innocent lives will be lost for the sake of protecting of precious lives of criminals. Kids will be killed…there is no way for us to protect them, we just do not care enough about them. there is always toss, cannot have cake and eat it too, simply not possible. We do not kill killers, then killers will kill multiple innocent, so at the end it is our fault, al of us, the whole society, every single person has a blood on their hands. this is truth, admit ir or not, the fact stil there, cannot be erased, not from history, not from our minds.</p>
<p>A very tragic situation, with no mental background that we know of, how would anyone know this young man was going to go create such tragedy?</p>
<p>Yes^, but the reason America has eliminated forms of death such as the electric chair, is for the sake of humanity. Despite the vile that resides in criminal actions, America won’t take their life because the federal prisons are meant to shape the character of those incarcerated. If given another chance to ‘make amends,’ killing these criminals would serve as an underhand injustice against humanity. Nevertheless, when released from prison, most of these people will end up in jail again. </p>
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<p>NJSue I agree completely with your post #39. It is irrelevant what country this happened in, it just happened and that is wrong. I am Canadian so am I accordinglng to Dionysus58 supposed to be relieved that this happened in the States, I think NOT, this type of things bothers me incredibly because it is not a matter of nationality but a matter humanity. This type of thing is just wrong on so many levels. I am so upset about this because unfortunately this type of thing is what gets copy cats going. When something like this happens I always fear that some other nut case is going to try to do better than the last one. I hope and pray that I am wrong but that is my concern now.</p>
<p>Police are going to insert a bomb robot into his apartment. The building and adjacent buildings are evacuated. Tripwires and large bottles of what might be a flammable liquids, connected with wires. Double checking that the building (other apartments) truly is unoccupied. </p>
<p>Reports are that he had some strange behaviors before this, and possibly some psych issues.</p>
<p>Went to HS in north county San Diego, interned at the Salk Institute (near UCSD).</p>
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<p>Many of the mass murderers commit suicide. Are you aware of any mass murderers who went to prison and were actually later released? Seems like even the ones who are found not guilty by reason of insanity are still kept in mental institutions - not released to kill again.</p>
<p>If a guy commits mass murder, then just stands by his car, waiting to be apprehended, I can’t imagine that the possiblity of the death penalty would have been a deterrant.</p>
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– Yes, like only approximately once a year for the last 20 - 30 years in the U.S. if you look up the statistics, compared to a few a decade in other countries – so not really infrequently enough, IMHO, compared to peer countries. (This may reflect population/density differences, however.)</p>
<p>So while it’s true that more people will die in traffic accidents in the U.S. while I eat my lunch than died in this tragedy, it does beg the question of what contributing factors there are in our society that increase the national frequency/occurrence of mass violence. Some of you mocked the “book deals” comment, but research does show that notoriety is a motivating factor for many psychotics. Think about the planning that went into this, the conscious intent, where it was staged. Who was that for, if not an audience? How could this act not be related to a desire for notoriety/notice? (And boy, are we good at giving these psychos the attention they crave with 24/7 coverage…)</p>
<p>This was completely calculated, pre-meditated in every way, and also executed in a way that suggests intelligent (although amoral) thought behind the act. (In Dark Knight, there is a line that evil exists because “Some just want to watch the world to burn.”) </p>
<p>Whether we want to acknowledge it or not, the perpetrator is clearly communicating a message. So while we want to believe someone has to be “mentally ill” to commit such an act (and indeed, they do have to be psychotic) I wouldn’t want anyone to confuse such “mental illness” with the competency to stand trial, the responsibility for one’s actions and competency to execute a plot.</p>
<p>Inevitably, there will be ensuing partisan conversations about gun control and the lack thereof, about healthcare (mental) and the lack thereof, about moral standards, media, and shaping of the national psyche…and the lack thereof – and these would all be good conversations to have. </p>
<p>But I’d love to hear from someone with some solid accreditation in abnormal psych about what conditions lead to this kind of psychotic break. </p>
<p>Or is the miracle that it doesn’t happen MORE OFTEN?</p>
<p>Regardless of your opinion on these things, let’s all be kind to one another and pray for those brokenhearted families in Denver, and for the family of the shooter.</p>
<p>As with a lot of things, China is catching up with the US in multiple murder situations. It does seem that US killers use firearms more often due to ready availability. When you read how other countries’ mass murderes carry out the killings, it may be a blessing to be shot dead if it happens to you.</p>
<p>[Serial</a> killers in China | Danwei](<a href=“http://www.danwei.com/serial-killers-in-china/]Serial”>http://www.danwei.com/serial-killers-in-china/)</p>
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<p>So in order to prevent things like this, are you proposing to put to death every person who is mentally unbalanced, or perhaps people with traffic tickets?</p>
<p>Totally gruesome, 07DAD.</p>
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<p>So here I’m thinking that it’s too easy to get guns in the US, and MiamiDAP thinks we are too lax with our punishments…and the Chinese apparently blame their citizens’ freedom of movement.</p>
<p>I Worked as a mental health crisis intervention specialist. I was well acquainted with a person who took a machine gun into a crowded area and started shooting. You would know the name.</p>
<p>We knew it was coming, the parents knew it was coming. the parents fought the MH system for years to get help for their young adult.</p>
<p>It happened anyway.</p>
<p>Schizophrenia. Psychotic break. Delusional and paranoid. That is just one instance.</p>
<p>Often time mental illness shows itself in the late teens and early twentys.</p>
<p>We do not know about this man yet. Soon enough.</p>
<p>As this story unfolds it will be curious to see how much mental health support, if any, he received at the UC - Denver and whether his professors and peers reached out to the alleged shooter. Shades of Virginia Tech.</p>
<p>Latest: two navy personal killed, two air force wounded. </p>
<p>Coming from a military family, I made peace with the fact that I lost family in the Middle East. It would have been much harder to make peace with the fact that he died at the hands of an American here IN America.</p>
<p>He grew up in San Diego? Hmmm, probably shouldnt have moved away from the calming effect of the waves and the ocean and the year-round warm weather. Some find it extremely difficult to adapt. Thats like moving a walrus or a sea lion from the sea to a farm…</p>
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<p>In the Wimbledon coverage this year, they did a piece on Andy Murray (one of the finalists) as he had been a student at Dunblane when it happened.</p>