Shot at Rice?

<p>Well I’m a Junior currently from a town around the Houston area in Texas, and I’m very interested in attending Wharton in the fall of 2008, but I’d like to know what you feel my chances are, and what more I could to do improve them.</p>

<p>First I feel I should describe my background a little bit - I’m a Hispanic male born in New Jersey on February 12, 1991 (Everyone else in my grade is a year older). I am an ESL student, having gone to live with family in Honduras when I was about 3 months old, and I stayed there for a while until I came back to the States to live in Texas at around the end of the second grade year. I have one younger brother and only my mom(Never my father actually, and he’s now deceased). My mother has a rather… dismal income so I know right off the bat that paying for college will be horrendous, but my worry right now is getting in.</p>

<p>Currently in my school I’m number 4 out of a junior class of 720 students, though the total student number will more than likely change, and my individual ranking will either stay constant or remain the same. I am enrolled currently in Soccer, AP English Lit and Comp, AP Chemistry, AP U.S. History, Pre-AP Pre-Calculus, Pre-AP French III, and Pre-AP Physics. I am making strong A’s in all these courses except English, a high B. First semester I had a few B’s but this second semester most are good A’s. My school uses a 6.0 grading scale in which I was making a 6.007, though that is subject to change as well.</p>

<p>I looked it up and found that the average SAT score for a Penn undergrad is around 2100 and I took a practice test in which I made around a 1900, but I’m rather confident that I can tie up the loose ends in time.</p>

<p>I’m involved in soccer, NHS, and am sort of on Hiatus from french club but I will soon rejoin it. I have completed and organized projects from NHS but I fear that my leadership roles are not exactly up to par with what Wharton expects from prospective students. It is rather difficult for me though seeing as I am 16, my mother works nights with erratic shifts. She previously worked at a school in erm… custodial duties (Not all of us are blessed with cozy lives =P). As you can probably infer, both of my parents had no college experience, and I am, or will be, a first generation college student. Anyways, I will get more involved in the summer with trying to be more active, but I hope that not being able to be incredibly involved is much of a terrible handicap on me, considering my situation related to others, plus my job I have right now is crucial since I have to pay for clothes next year and a car!</p>

<p>Next year I will take Soccer, AP English IV(I forget the right term), AP Physics II, AP Government/Macroeconomics, AP Biology, AP Calculus BC and AP Statistics.</p>

<p>I feel that on an academic level I am almost, if not equal with other qualifying undergrads, but my EC activities are lacking. Anyhow, what do you feel my position on getting accepted by Wharton would now be, and what more would I have to do to up my chances?</p>

<p>Oh by the way, I plan to take 3 or 4 SAT II’s, just to have a variety to choose from or maybe it would look good to the admissions department, I’m not sure. They are Spanish, Chemistry, Math IIC, and I’m debating whether or not to take U.S. History.</p>

<p>My SAT I so far is 2040 (650 CR, 690M, 700 W), but that’s a definite retake.</p>

<p>Just wondering if I have a chance ED/EA, and also, are people generally successful doing pre law at rice?</p>

<p>I think you have a good shot at Wharton. So why are you posting this on the Rice forum? :D</p>

<p>Because I’m very disheartened from what everyone else is saying… plus Rice is close to home by my mom, me and my little brother are all she has in this country =/</p>

<p>Any other takers?</p>

<p>Dude, you’re a First Gen Student + URM…might as well start adding Rice friends to your facebook because you are in. One thing that may hurt your app is your residence in Houston. If anything, I’d suggest applying ED, but you seem to want Wharton more so I dunno.</p>

<p>I attended Penn (Chem and biochem eng graduate degrees). I loved Penn. I am certain that my son would have been accepted if he applied. However, Rice looked like a better match for his needs. He will be a freshman this year. </p>

<p>My suggestion, apply for both. Figure out which is the best fit for you. Remember you could always do undergrad at Rice and grad at Penn. Yes the money can work out.</p>

<p>Hi I had a question regarding my interest to transferring to Rice and was wondering if anyone out there could help.</p>

<p>My background info:</p>

<p>I live in Houston and I am a first generation college student. I am in my mid twenties and I decided to turn my life around and go to school. I am currently at HCC taking college courses and so far I have a GPA 4.0. I am studying to take my SAT’s in october and I was wondering with 15 credit hours and a really decent SAT score what my chances were on getting in. </p>

<p>Anyone have an opinion to share on this one?</p>

<p>Alfomale,
I see you’re new here. What you need to do is start a new thread. You’ll get more answers that way, plus this thread is for answering the original poster’s questions only. Thanks.</p>

<p>“I took a practice test in which I made around a 1900, but I’m rather confident that I can tie up the loose ends in time.”
“My SAT I so far is 2040 (650 CR, 690M, 700 W), but that’s a definite retake.”</p>

<p>? I’m a little confused on that. But your stats and ECs look very good. If you can get 2150+ I think you’ve got great chances at both Penn and Rice. As of right now, your chances are pretty decent (unlike kornpopz, I don’t think “you are in”). Nothing in college admissions is ever guaranteed, so make sure you put a lot of time into your essays + application and have good backup schools. Good luck.</p>

<p>I mean I didn’t study much so I didn’t do as well as I could have… but I’m working on that now to be ready for October?</p>

<p>And uh… why do you think my ECs are good? I think they suck >_></p>

<p>Eloquence – when money is an issue, as it will be in your case, DO NOT apply ED. It is binding and you might be saddled with a substantial portion of your education from loans. Another school might give your more in grants. No not apply ED if you will need to balance one school’s offer with another’s.</p>

<p>Rice eliminated its Interim Decision. It has ED and RD.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>LW - I heard if your income is low enough that they take away most loans you get and turn them into grants?</p>

<p>Well for the college I wanna go to, applying ED and getting loans would be fine I think, if it ups my chances and perhaps helps me get in then what’s the problem with some loans?</p>

<p>Rice’s policy this year and previous years is to limit total student loans; no loans if income under $30,000; approx. $11,000 if income between 30,000 and 60,000; approx $14,525 if income above $60,000 (total student loans at graduation, UNLESS you have requested additional loans to replace workstudy or ?) . Outside scholarships replace loans first, then workstudy, then grants. Workstudy is still in package of most students, but at a very reasonable amount of $1800 for first year. There is no telling how this will change in the future, but I would think that either the policy will stay the same, OR loans will be further reduced or eliminated (to compete with Amherst, Princeton, etc…) Don’t know if and when, but it would be nice. If not, well Rice’s deal is still very nice, and most kids of Rice’s caliber are able to get enough outside scholarships to at least reduce some of that student loan amount.</p>

<p>See that’s why I’m not worried about loans… I know I sound like a jerk but I’m taking advantage of a bad situation, I AM under 20K big time, my mom makes 7 bucks an hour D:, so ED shouldn’t be too bad for me, right?</p>

<p>does being a first generation student improve my chances at being accepted to rice?</p>

<p>Will it make a big difference if I apply RD instead of ED?</p>