<p>Thanks Melzer! I wish I could find some of my old HS teachers and tell them I’m going to Florida lol. They’d never believe it! Lucky for me, the bad grades at my first school were not because I couldn’t handle the work; they were because I didn’t go to class and the school had an attendance policy…I got Fs because I didn’t withdraw. Also lucky for me is I won’t have to do any more math once I transfer. The degree only requires college algebra and stats.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not hating on people who aren’t that smart or have to work harder for good grades. It just blows my mind to see people in college who don’t seem to want to try. The kids in my pre-algebra class (and I was amazed at how many 18-19 year old recent HS graduates were in there! I hope they had dropped out and got GEDs because how could they have algebra 1 or above so fresh in their minds and not know place values, long division or fractions) just had a bad attitude. They were mad that we had to turn our phones off in class, and mad that the teacher required us to be on time. It really made it more difficult for those of us who were proud to be there and wanted to do well. We weren’t allowed to use calculators in pre-algebra because the next class, introductory algebra, required an exit exam to pass and calculators weren’t allowed on it. We were allowed, actually required on some problems, to use calculators in college algebra and stats.</p>
<p>I had a history class…
SO up until the midterm i was a diligent student and i aced the midterm; which the professor told us which topics would be on it. Anyway for the second part of the semester i did not go to class until the last class before the final test, found out what was going to be on it, did a nights worth of research and aced that one too.</p>
<p>Now im *<strong><em>ed b/c i am going back to school and dont want to do any of that lower division *</em></strong> that i learned IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, i just want to do graduate work in a variety of fields.</p>
<p>I hold it to be self-evident that no piece of information is at a higher level than any other piece of information.</p>
<p>Learning about a “pre-requisite” is simply **** you need to do in order to solve the problem at hand.</p>
<p>If you really want to succeed at something, you just do what is necessary to succeed.</p>
<p>I dont understand this world sometimes !!! :S</p>
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<p>You’d have a hard time finding those teachers! What percent of college grads do you think take multi variable calculus that are not strictly interested in STEM?</p>
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<p>I believe that there are Community colleges that offer harder courses, such as honors classes and honors programs. Some Community Colleges have good transfer records, my local community college has transfers into schools like Georgetown, John Hopkins, Vanderbilt, and others, so that shows that those schools saw the courses at this CC as equal. I think it all depends which CC you are talking about. If you want to attend a CC because its cheaper but also want to be challenged like in a 4-year university then it would be a good idea to do some research. I think CCs are underrated and overly stereotyped which isn’t fair.</p>
<p>@Trones21 try that in engineering.</p>
<p>I don’t mean you will necessarily fail. But in STEM, if you can do it, they’ll check you out and then they will be happy to teach you the next level. And on the other hand, if you’ve been trying 20 times to pass it and still can’t do it, then you still can’t do it. It’s refreshingly practical, very fair.</p>
<p>There’s the story that Einstein flunked out of school. Whether that’s true or not, if he did and then suddenly became very strong as in the story, the rest would happen as reported. Nobody shows up to quibble about missing prerequisites if you can do the proofs in a pure math class. In laboratory science they may want to ensure you won’t blow up the lab, that’s about it.</p>
<p>I think the challenge for community colleges is that they have to cater to so many more audiences than four-year universities such as non-traditional students. Not to brag, but my CC classes were 3x easier than my high school classes and I just came in feeling like everything was a joke but many of my classmates were struggling. Honors classes are offered but there is little incentive to take them unless you have a LOT of foresight to think: “Ok, I’m going to this top program and I want to actually be prepared.” because most top universities will have absolutely no clue what an “honors” class is from some CC. In addition, very few (maybe <5%) students from my CC went on to top universities, so until that trend becomes more pronounced, I don’t think things will change.</p>
<p>Yes. Things you learn in school will probably be totally different from what you will do.</p>
I don’t think that the community college curriculum should be harder. It’s good that it’s easy as people’s lives/careers are effected by their college performance thus benefiting the students.
I think that perhaps more community colleges should have an honors college and regular college, therefore, if a student wants to have a harder curriculum, and also wants the benefits of a cheaper tuition, than they would have that option.