Should corporal punishment be gender specific?

<p>Malaysia, a few years ago was considering officially allow caning (not judical caning; just in school caning) for girls. A link is below. </p>

<p>[Malaysia</a> to revive caning in schools](<a href=“AsiaOne Malaysia News, Get the Latest Malaysia Breaking News at AsiaOne”>AsiaOne Malaysia News, Get the Latest Malaysia Breaking News at AsiaOne)</p>

<p>One thing to note is that even though Malaysia doesn’t “officially” cane girls, They still often cane them informally (i.e. on the hand). As for other countries , corporal punishment basically goes like this:</p>

<p>CPs been mostly banned and discouraged in Europe and is obviously used in some Middle Eastern countries; I believe it’s okay for private schools in America, but not sure</p>

<p>South Korea-banned in Seoul, but used rather liberally on both genders in other districts
Taiwan-illegal but widely used on both genders
China-not sure? (school and district specific, maybe)
Singapore-strictly for boys, though I heard private caning (boys can be caned in public) is allowed with parent permission (not sure if this is true). Also, one thing to note is that Singapore has been widely criticized for having much more lenient discipline measures for girls in many schools. </p>

<p>Judaical caning in Singapore and Malaysia is only for men.</p>

<p>Anyways, for more info here’s the Wikipedia link (some of the info is old): </p>

<p>[School</a> corporal punishment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_corporal_punishment]School”>School corporal punishment - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>Anyways, if you agree with using corporal punishment, should it be gender specific. Also, I’ve heard caning women (particularly the harsher judicial version) can cause women to become unable to have children. Any info on that?</p>

<p>Got a paper due, by any chance? :)</p>

<p>No one should be subject to violence. To inflict physical pain upon another person for the purpose of teaching them a lesson is just plain wrong. I have never hit my children and am so happy my husband and I made that commitment. Just my opinion.</p>

<p>She me that it works on one gender and not the other.
If it works at all, go for it. But, perhaps, look for other things that work, too.</p>

<p>@starbright: No, I do not. I was reading up on how the British Empire affected the current political system of many of its former colonies and I was interested in finding out that many of them (though now most have essentially abandoned it) used corporal punishment for men in their judicial system as well as in school. So yeah that’s why I’m asking. I’m an Comp Poli/IR major so I like to research comparative social/political systems.</p>

<p>It is probably a moot point as far as schools in the US are concerned as many school districts have rules in place against corporal punishment.</p>

<p>In NYC, corporal punish goes against the chancellors regulations and any one working for the DOE who engages in corporal punish would be removed from their job and would most likely be facing termination. In addition, every adult in the building is a mandated reporter. If they should see or get a report from a child about corporal punishment being inflicted on a child, they are obligated to report the incident to children’s services.</p>

<p>The key to successful use of corporal punishment is that it shouldn’t be administered by someone who’s worked up, but rather administered as it is in Singapore. Haven’t thought of the gender aspect, though, but overall I don’t see anything wrong in it being one of the tools used for punishment.</p>

<p>Corporal punishment of kids shouldn’t be used at all - anywhere.</p>

<p>I do not believe that corporal punishment should be legal in the United States; not in schools nor in private homes. </p>

<p>Corporal punishment is legal in public schools here in Texas unless the parent ops out. We, of course, opted out.</p>

<p>So dad<em>of</em>3, if you messed up at work or ran a stop sign, you’d be okay with someone whacking you with a stick, as long as they weren’t too emotional about it? (and btw, where do you find a person who can inflict pain on another and feel nothing themselves?)</p>

<p>I don’t think corporal punishment should be used at all. I don’t think it’s inherently wrong, but scientific research has largely supported the idea that it has a negative effect on children. For instance I think the APA is largely against corporal punishment too.</p>

<p>In think it’s wrong to hit for punishment anyone. And for adults to beat or hit kids or whip is just wrong, primitive, barbaric and sadistic.</p>

<p>During the 1950s, I saw our principal come into our elementary classroom, and hit a girl with his belt.</p>

<p>The image is seared onto my eyeballs forever.</p>

<p>We never spanked D, but I was spanked as a child. My parents might be surprised at the lessons it taught me:</p>

<ol>
<li> Don’t get caught.</li>
<li> When they say it’s always wrong to hit someone – they don’t mean it.</li>
<li> Love can sometimes equal pain.</li>
<li> Despite what they say, violence is an acceptable way to handle conflict.</li>
<li> If you have more power, you can do anything you want to get your way.</li>
<li> Fairness doesn’t matter. One time, my dad found an apple with one bite taken out of it, thrown over our fence into the vacant lot next door. He lined all 3 of us kids up and asked for a confession. No one spoke. He then said if someone didn’t confess, he’d spank all 3 of us. Silence. We all got spanked. As we stood there crying, my brother finally confessed.<br></li>
<li> Consistency doesn’t matter. I know they didn’t enjoy spanking me. Sometimes a small infraction would earn a whipping; sometimes a large infraction would be ignored.</li>
</ol>

<p>My father did not use corporal punishment on us often, but when he did he made sure it had an impact. The one time I remember especially well was when I was 11 and he caught me smoking cigarettes. He gave me something to remember, I think in part because my mother was a chain smoker which ruined her health and that bothered him to no end. I never smoked cigarettes again.</p>

<p>It sure would be nice if there were simple algorithms to follow to live the optimal life and safe, easy answers that appealed to all. Too bad we just have to muddle through as best we can.</p>

<p>I was not spanked and did not want to spank our children. DH was raised with the belief that spanking was appropriate and necessary. He did spank our oldest, albeit rarely. I finally put an end to it as I just could find no justification for it whatsoever. By the time D2 was born, he was on the same page with me. </p>

<p>I also believe that corporal punishment should not be legal in any forum, including schools. Our private schools do not use it, and had we put our kids in public school, we, like pugmadkate, would certainly have opted out. It’s hard for me to believe CP is still actually used in Texas public schools, but I guess it must be if it’s still legal.</p>

<p>Lasma, that was a great post.</p>

<p>“Corporal punishment” would be considered “assault” if inflicted on anyone other than one’s own kid. And I find this interest in “gender-specific corporal punishment” to be outright creepy.</p>

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<p>I used to believe this, too.</p>

<p>Then I had a child who, as a toddler, fought intensely against being wiped when having a diaper changed. If a second adult was available, I would have one adult restrain the child while the other did the wiping. But if I was alone, I could not wipe the child because two hands were not enough to restrain the child and do the wiping, too. Thus, diaper rash became a constant feature of life at our house. The child was miserable because of the diaper rash but too young to make the connection between the rash and the resistance to wiping.</p>

<p>It got to the point where I was considering putting the child in otherwise-unnecessary day care because it seemed that the child could not be properly cared for unless two or more adults were always present. But this was not financially feasible.</p>

<p>Then I resorted to corporal punishment – a slap on the leg if the child refused to cooperate with wiping. It worked. I continued to do it for many months until the child was toilet trained and it was no longer necessary.</p>

<p>Now I don’t know what to think about corporal punishment. All this happened 20 years ago, but I still don’t know what I could have done instead.</p>

<p>sybbie I seriously doubt that they could remove a teacher for CP since they don’t seem to be capable of removing them for sex crimes or did you miss the news this morning?</p>

<p>[Corporal</a> Punishment in Public Schools, by State — Infoplease.com](<a href=“Columbia Encyclopedia”>Corporal Punishment in Public Schools, by State) A chart showing which 20 states permit cp and the percentage of kids paddled. I’ve got no problem with the .1-.2% states, but I saw at least one up over 7%. That doesn’t sound good now does it?</p>