Should I apply LSA or Engineering at UMich c/o 2025

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The NON CS coursework is not the same. But why does that matter? If you’re hiring someone, why would you care what someone took for classes outside of their major/classes that are not relevant to the job your are hiring the person for?

Why does it matter? Well, because the CoE student has take more advanced math and science courses. MV Calc and Diff Eq, among the other required science courses in CoE, may be much more preferable to humanities courses.

As for the additional 8 credits, CoE has 128 and LSA has 120. But have you ever asked why? It’s because LSA has so many distribution requirements that the students usually have to take more than 120 credits anyway!

Ya, well, I’ve not heard that from anyone in LSA, and again, I’m not going to take your word for it. My own kid will graduate early with 120 units.

Rather rude of you to just assume some things are objectively harder than others. I know many engineering students who struggled in their required humanties course and ended up getting Bs.

Call me rude and correct then.

Grade distribution shows lower grades in STEM, intro level classes

https://www.michigandaily.com/section/news/grade-distribution-shows-differences-student-achievement-level

“Students taking classes in STEM fields tend to receive lower grades, on average, than those majoring in social science and humanities fields, according to the data obtained by the Daily, which shows the historic grade distribution for all LSA courses for Fall 2014-Fall 2015.”

And just helping my own kid plot her LSA coursework for 5 semesters, using GradeGuide, her LSA Humanities classes have ALWAYS (every single class so far) had a higher average median grade than her STEM classes. It’s is what it is.

Obviously they are going to be different. One is in CoE and one is in LSA.

Yes they’re different, not the same. Thank you for agreeing.

This info is not published, but I know my professors have said the difference is marginal

Actually, UMich CoE publishes their salaries. I couldn’t find LSA CS salaries by major.

http://career.engin.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/30/2020/04/annualreport1819.pdf

As you can see median for EECS is $115k. Median for CS is $110k. Regardless, the difference is marginal.

First, even in the SF Bay Area, where I live, $5,000 a year is different, not the same, in my book. I love how you dismiss $5,000/year as “marginal.” I wish I was paid $5,000 more a year. Second, Cal is one of the premier CS degrees in the USA. So, we really don’t know how the pay variance between the two degrees compares to outcomes at UMich.

If you don’t know your stuff, you won’t get the job!

If you haven’t taken MV Calc, Diff Eq, Physics, Chem, etc., at the college level, then you may not get that CS job.

We’ve established that the degrees aren’t the same, the coursework different, the pay outcome, at least at Cal, is different and that, while rude of me, the fact of the matter is that students with STEM degrees have lower GPA’s than those students with degrees in the Humanities. ?

Again, I’m going to move on now. Arguing is against this site’s rules.