Should i call Princeton to ask if i should take the sat a fourth time?

<p>first time 590(CR) 590(M) 620(W)
Second time 560(CR) 650(M) 620(W)
third time 620(CR) 620(M) 610(W)
Highest 620(CR) 650(M) 620(W)
total = 1890</p>

<p>Those scores aren't really high enough for Princeton, or any other Ivy league school. Sorry. If you're really set on Princeton, you'd have to retake it and score much higher, or take the ACT.</p>

<p>See page 10 of Princeton Common Data Set: <a href="http://registrar.princeton.edu/university_enrollment_sta/common_cds2010.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://registrar.princeton.edu/university_enrollment_sta/common_cds2010.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Princeton's 25th Percentile = 690 CR, 710 M, 700 W</p>

<p>Your numbers from all 3 tests are well below the 25th percentile, putting your application at a huge disadvantage for admission to Princeton.</p>

<p>If you have the time, you can certainly take the SAT a 4th time, but past studies have shown that taking the SAT more than twice does not result in significantly higher scores. If your going to take the test again, I would try the ACT instead.</p>

<p>how about upenn</p>

<p>patel</p>

<p>both Penn and Cornell require you to send all SAT scores (they do not honor Score Choice). I think that taking the test four times would be something of a red flag for these schools, even if you did significantly better the fourth time. Here is some language from the Penn website about it:</p>

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Furthermore, if the new Score-Use policy creates behavior that may be unproductive, like taking the test at an earlier stage and taking the test more than 3 times, the Admissions Committee can benefit from that information.

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<p>I would strongly suggest that you add one or two test optional schools to your mix. For example, Wake Forest is an excellent school that is test optional and, in the event you need financial aid and are a US citizen, is also need-blind. Other excellent test optional schools are Bowdoin, Bates and Hamilton.</p>

<p>If you insist on taking another standardized test, I concur with Gibby's suggestion about trying the Dec. 10 ACT test--some students strongly prefer this test and you might be one of them.</p>

<p>Finally, if you really want to throw an Ivy application, you should consider Cornell's state-supported schools. If you have any interest in majoring in biology or environmental sciences, SAT scores for the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences are lower than for the other colleges. While your scores are still low, at least they would not be below the 25th percentile and if your application makes a strong case for you to be interested in one of these schools, you might have a slim chance. Here is the link to the test scores for the state-supported schools.</p>

<p><a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I would take it again. AND don't call them and ask! It can't hurt to take it again (if you raise your scores) since with your current scores you are at a big disadvantage already.</p>

<p>Most colleges will tell you during their info sessions that they start taking points off the sats for 4th sittings.</p>

<p>This reminds me of a definition of stupidity/insanity: repeating the same behavior over and over and expecting a different result.</p>

<p>You will no doubt be older with each taking of the test, but unless you've accessed info that was previously unavailable to you, or finally gotten the eyeglass prescription that allows you to properly read the test booklet, why do you think your fourth set of results would be that much higher? I've never heard of anyone wearing down standardized tests, tho the tests can wear you down. Taking it more than three times makes no sense to me.</p>

<p>It appears to me you're trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole. If anything, you should see that the SATs are correctly indicating your ability in that there's not a lot of variance. That said, I think you realize that you're out of the typical range for a viable applicant to Princeton and UPenn. </p>

<p>Logic would dictate that you move along in your college search process and look down a notch from those ultra-selective colleges. By all appearances, you should have a successful collegiate career -- but not an an Ivy league school. Good luck to you.</p>

<p>And I'm certain that if you were to call, they would give you a non-committal answer. But the fact is your scores will most assuredly get you a rejection.</p>