Should I Write an Appeal?

Hey guys, its late March again and I’m a senior, so I’ve been getting responses to my college applications now, and I have been pretty disappointed to say the least. I know a good majority of people who apply to college are disappointed when the acceptance rates are as low as they are, and that I really am at the mercy of admissions counselors. Anyway, I was just looking for some advice as I really don’t know who else to go to.

I applied to 13 schools, and have been accepted to 4 and rejected to 5 so far. I don’t high expectations for the rest because they’re Ivies. I was rejected to UC Davis, UCLA, UC Berkeley, Harvey Mudd, and Cal Poly SLO. I applied Mechanical Engineering

Here are my objective stats:[ul]
[] SAT I (breakdown): 2110 (750 CR, 690M, 670W)
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] ACT: 34 (35E, 34M, 33R, 34S)
[] SAT II: 790 Physics, 760 Math II, 720 US History
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] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.96
[] Weighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.69
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] UC GPA: 4.25
[] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 2/329
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] ELC?: Yes
[] AP (place score in parenthesis): 5 Eur. His., 5 US His., 5 Eng. Lang., 5 Physics
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] Senior Year Course Load: AP US Gov, AP Eng. Lit., AP Calc BC, AP Psychology, AP Art History
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Also I’m white, but my family immigrated from Eastern Europe when I was very young. We’re ,middle class, and my high school is a small school in the suburbs that isn’t very competitive.

As for ECs, I was in Boy Scouts for 10 years and I am an Eagle Scout, and I had a lot of leadership positions and service hours through it. I also played water polo and swim for all 4 years, and I was captain of both my senior year. I went to CIF with both sports, and placed pretty high in swim for someone who didn’t do club for a long time. I started swimming for a club year-round after sophomore year. I also am very involved with my church. I have been a part of my church’s youth group all through high school and I was VP my senior year. I have also served in our services as an acolyte for 6 years.

I felt I was a pretty well-rounded candidate, but I definitely didn’t have a great SAT score. As I am in state for the UCs, I was hoping I’d have a little bit better of a chance. Now that I am on this other side of the application process, I’m pretty disappointed. I understand that these schools are all “holistic” and I have seen people here on CC that have gotten in for engineering with lower stats, but I’m not even one of those people who only did well on tests (I didn’t even do that great). I was wondering if you guys thought it would be a good idea for me to appeal either UCLA or Berkeley. I know these schools are really tough to get into, but I really am disappointed I didn’t get into either.

I did apply for Mechanical Engineering to both, so it was heavily impacted. My ECs did not reflect my interest in engineering really because until the end of my sophomore year I wanted to be an architect so I took the architecture class my school has, but I realized it wasn’t for me. Only in the last year and a half have I been interested in engineering, and my school doesn’t really have that many options for students like bigger schools do; only like 17% of the kids take AP classes.

One of the few things I can think of other than my ECs that would hold me back from engineering is my SAT and SAT II Math scores. As for the SAT, I took it back in March of my junior year and never improved it from there. I found the ACT was a better test for me, and as you can tell from my scores, it showed. However, I did send both scores to the schools I applied to. I just didn’t do well in the SAT Math format. I do, however, perform very well in my Calc BC class and I did well in Physics last year, arguably skills that actually mean something for becoming an engineer, not SAT Math.

Basically I’m a little shocked I have so few options, but perhaps that was my own fault for applying to too many reaches. I’ve been accepted to UCSD (in my first choice college), UCI (CHP), and SDSU (Honors), and then Macalester because they had a free application.

So should I write an appeal to either Berkeley or UCLA (or both?) asking them to reconsider my application and include more information on how I didn’t get on the path to becoming an engineer until my junior year, mention my family’s immigration, and how I have been performing much better in Physics and Calculus versus SAT Math? I would really like to attend one of these schools, but otherwise, I’ll be attending UCSD.

Thanks.

The UCs used your ACT score, not your SAT so that didn’t hurt you. What would be the basis of your appeal? What was incorrect on your record? That’s the only reason they would reconsider. Also, if you had been near the cutoff you would be waitlisted rather than rejected. You have some fine choices available. I would just move on.

@Erin’s Dad That’s what I assumed. I guess it isn’t worth my time. I’m just upset, I guess.

You will get a great education at UCSD, if that is where you choose.If you continue on for a Master’s, you can shoot for UCB or UCLA.

It’s a natural reaction to feel disappointment now, but remember no one will care or remember your acceptances in a few months, or years. And who wouldn’t want to live in San Diego for four years?? Best of luck.

Don’t write the appeal. They are reaches and it’s tough to get in for MechEng. Besides, you got into UCSD, which is a fine place. Good luck to you.

@fauve Who wouldn’t? Someone who has lived in San Diego for 15 years already! But yeah, I was just hoping to get a little farther from home. And I will cross that bridge when I get there in regards to grad school, but they will likely be in my sights.

@TheDidactic‌ yeah, I don’t think I will. I don’t really have any new information, and thank you.

REACH? HUH? Ok not in the UC system and really glad. How does your record compare to people that posted acceptances? Since you got into another UC your school probably did everything they were supposed to but I would double check with the GC especially as they do not deal with competitive applications. There is no harm in filing an appeal. There is some website run by some woman mentioned on another thread that does this professionally, not saying you should do that as I have no idea.

As far as I can tell the only mistake you made is showing anyone who did not reqiure it your SAT scores (not that they are bad its just a 34 is 98-99% and a 2100 is not). You have an admirable record. A 34 especially with 34s in math and science is great. That you got into Macalaster without I suspect showing any interest is good. I have heard of Harvey Mudd but not familiar really. How was your essay? I doubt mechanical engineering is very popular at the Ivies so I think you have a chance there unless your essays were not amazing

@adidinescu- So San Diego is home already…Macalester would give you a very different environment and climate :wink:

@SaphireNY‌ I have, as far as I have read, slightly lower math SAT scores, but I have pretty strong ECs and such and I have definitely seen people with similar scores get accepted. And at the end of the day I really don’t know if an appeal would change my case, but it’d be nice to have them reconsider with more information about me. As for getting into Macalester, I think I do show a pretty strong interest actually when I applied. I have been in contact with the swim coach and I think that may have helped, but I still don’t think I could afford to go that far and pay for the tuition.

@fauve That’s true, but I don’t think I’m willing to sacrifice the quality of the engineering education I’d get at UCSD for Macalester; the cost difference is too great among other things.

See if you can get Merit or apply for Financial Aid. Is Macalester allowed to give Merit Aid to athletes? Speak to the swim coach and FA office, he or they may have suggestions. Did you speak to any of the Ivy swim coaches, did any of them show interest.

34 Math is at least at the 50th percentile for most places. So you should be fine.

Exactly why those SATs should never have seen the light of day, except where they were required which I think may just be Penn of the Ivies. Yale requires every test from ONE series. So if you choose to send ACTs, I think you do not have to send SATs. However, if you do not have a good experienced GC you would never have known. The ivies may realize. Also some of them say they only look at your best scores so I would not worry, your math ACT is great

@SaphireNY I didn’t have much contact with my counselor over the years. The only interaction was her calling me into her office earlier in the year making sure I know when college application deadlines were, and I followed up a couple of times with her to make sure she was completing what I needed for the Common App. My school doesn’t really have a large % of the population that goes to top universities so the counselors aren’t very active in the application process.

I am a little too slow for the Ivy swim teams, but I have been dropping a lot of time since I started so late and I’ve been playing catch, but I was going to email the Cornell coach only if I got in (at this point though, that isn’t likely). Anyway, I appreciate your concern for my situation. :slight_smile:

UCSD Baby! It is a great school. It is in La Jolla! Go there and kill it. Congratulations! You have done so well on HS, you are going to crush it in college. The future belongs to you. (I agree with theD - post #4). Dude - you are awesome . . . study and surf. Rule the WORLD!

@glido‌ thanks haha, I will try. Thanks for the optimism :smile: