I agree 100%, but it shouldn’t happen at the store, or in a restaurant either obviously.
The difference is that parents willingly pay tens of thousands of dollars to send their daughters to a place where she could/will get sexually harassed. I think college should be a safer place than work.
Certainly, for police in many situations. But for an infantryman assaulting an objective, not so much.
I was glad to be in an all male MOS (infantry) when I was in the service. My roommate was in a mixed MOS (motor transport) and he would tell horror stories about Marines turning tricks for money, NCOs offering a subordinate better assignments in exchange for sex, or supordinates approaching their NCOs with offers of sex for preferential treatment. And this did not even get into the every day crude, dark humor that would certainly be considered harrassment by any corporate HR dept. It was a real minefield.
Young adults, maybe away from home for the first time, drugs, liquor, social pressure, lack of judgement, sometimes evil intent… what could possibly go wrong?
Good heavens, we’re not jackrabbits. What is wrong with people?
Counterinsurgency operations require the military service members to assume some police-like tasks in searching for insurgents hiding among the non-combatant population. Overly aggressive methods that the non-combatant population dislikes could turn the non-combatant population hostile, reducing the effectiveness of counterinsurgency operations.
Which is why I referred to an assault on an objective, not a patrol in a civilian area.
I found this Women in Law Enforcement feature on a police website.
Interestingly, if you’d like to see the officer below that they featured in “Day In The Life” in action, you can find her most Friday or Saturday nights on the REELZ Channel on the show On Patrol Live.
So what is the solution? Should women be prevented from working in certain occupations? Or should men’s and women’s jobs be segregated by gender? I think that was done decades ago - and women were still harassed.
The first office I worked in (I’m an accountant) had lots of stuff going on. The entire company had a “party” atmosphere in which the top management looked the other way. My boss sexually harassed almost every woman there. (it was a small company).
I left and went to another company where I worked for many years with both men and women. The management did not tolerate anything like that (I remember one incident in our department and the instigator was fired). People behaved themselves.
It’s not men and women working together that is the problem. It’s behavior expectations. And that is set at the top.
I was the 1st woman at my law firm that was hired as a law clerk and later an associate (the other women were receptionist, secretaries, book keepers—only males had been hired to do legal careers). Everyone in the firm treated everyone else just fine—no one flirted or harassed anyone else in the firm, regardless of rank. They hired several women after they hired me, so I guess I was the successful experiment.
All the women in the firm did fine, as did all the men. One became a HI Supreme Ct Justice, one became a federal judge, one became a state ct judge and one is a US senator.
The men did well too: one man became PUC commissioner, one became counsel to our flagship U and everyone else found what suited them.
Typically, women who are looking to get into the more physical trades are aware of he demands - either because they have a parent or sibling who does it or because it’s something they’ve been interested in for a while, so they’ve educated themselves and feel confident that it’s the right path for them (this goes for males too, btw, because not all males can instantly step into a physical job).
As I mentioned above, the high school my kids went to (a private one) is definitely ramping up its endeavor to pivot away from being exclusively an all-college prep model. Parents are completely losing their minds and are worried that their kids won’t get into Notre Dame if the high school dares to offer a class in a trade (never mind that the small handful of kids from the school who have been admitted to ND over the years have all been legacies, so the odds are beyond low to begin with). I’m anticipating as mass exodus of families from the school. It’s disappointing to see parents take this stance and instantly associate the trades with a failure in an educational model.
Call me old fashion. Mental jobs, absolutely. Physical jobs, it depends on the job. Welding, no problem. Firefighting, probably not. That’s a physically demanding job that’s best suited to the strength of a dude. Navy Seal? Nope. People die if you’re not physically up to standards.
The physical assessment test for firefighters is the same for men and women. 9% of my town’s firefighters are women. I’d trust them with life just as much as a man.
Some already mostly female jobs do involve physical work. For example, nurses sometimes have to move patients who cannot move themselves. The patients may be heavy and/or fragile.
Physical therapy can also involve significant effort to manipulate patients.
One of my favorite neighbors is a female firefighter. She’s pretty bad ass.
Women are increasingly qualifying to become Special Forces operators.
I am friendly with my town’s training officer for firefighters.
The issue with most of his team members is not physical strength- it’s attitude. The women he’s trained understand the chain of command. You go it alone- someone dies or is seriously injured. Many of the men he’s trained have GREAT difficulty with this concept-- they want to be the person “on the ground assessing” which sounds great in theory, but you can’t have an emergency situation with 12 people “making their own battle plan”.
A local gym has been a big source of female recruits. It trains boxers, weight lifters, etc. and many of them are EASILY more fit than some of the men who are vying for jobs in various fire/emergency departments.
This video is 9 years old. Women in strenuous, challenging jobs is nothing new.
SERE doesn’t sound like any fun. 
Our county has an entire campus to train students in manufacturing trades (think mechtronics technicians, CNC technicians and machinists) that serves several school districts and is funded with property taxes and state grants just like regular schools. Students who opt for one of these programs go half time to the vocational campus and half time to their regular high school, and they graduate in five years with their high school diploma and certification in their trade. During an information session, they provided a case study describing how a recent grad - a woman, btw - was earning $100k as machinists one year after graduating. That is a pretty good position to be in, earning good coin at age 20 with no school debt.
My older son is a junior studying MechE, but if he had wanted to enter this program I would have supported him all the way.
We have a similar HS training program in the Phoenix metro area. All 11th and 12th grade students can attend tuition-free. Bus transportation is provided to and from EVIT (East Valley Institute of Technology) by the school districts for most of their many programs. One young woman from our old neighborhood attended and is doing very well as an airplane mechanic at one of our regional airports.
ETA: College isn’t a blood sport here. All kids can attend ASU at low cost or practically free if grades are high enough, and I don’t think trades are viewed as poorly here as elsewhere.
There is no joy for students at SERE school. I knew an army Ranger who went through it and he said it was a total bear. Going in he thought, “How bad can it be? They can only go so far and there is no credible threat of personal injury or death.” After being deprived food and sleep, exposed to extreme temperatures, forced into stress positions, and being beaten for a few days, he said many were ready to break. The worst part in his mind, was when instructors abused other classmates to coerce him to divulge information.