<p>what happens if you’re a student and you over-consume alcohol and the EMS has to bring you to the hospital? Like, how much would you be charged for their services and what happens to you as a student and would you be able to hide it from your parents? Do you get like a freebie where there are no repercussions? Oh and btw how was slope day this year with Nelly?</p>
<p>First of all, as a parent, I feel that I need to say: be smart and stay safe. And for heaven’s sake, if you’re drinking don’t drive or do anything else where your slowed reflexes could get you or someone else killed.</p>
<p>Cornell has medical amnesty where you will not get in trouble (with Cornell) if you call for medical help for yourself or someone else. If local police get involved, you may still get charged with a crime by them, but I don’t believe that either Cornell or the EMS would bring in local law enforcement unless there is more going on that underage drinking. How much you get charged for the ambulance and ER visit is going to depend on your health insurance. If you are over 18 you are entitled to privacy regarding your medical (and school) records, but if you are on your parents’ health insurance, they will get a pretty good idea what happened when they see the charges go through their insurance. </p>
<p>[Gannett:</a> Medical Amnesty (MAP)](<a href=“http://www.gannett.cornell.edu/topics/drugs/alcohol/map.cfm]Gannett:”>http://www.gannett.cornell.edu/topics/drugs/alcohol/map.cfm)</p>
<p>If you have to go to an emergency room, all charges would be sent to your insurance and be paid by your insurance, net of deductible. I am sure most students at Cornell are dependent of their parents, therefore parents are paying for their insurance. Because of that, parents will see all medical claims. I am sure every parent would want to know why their kid had to go to an emergency room.</p>
<p>I heard it was a nice slope day. The weather was nicer than expected, not 45 and raining, but 65 and sunny.</p>
<p>So one of my friends got EMSed on slope day and was transported to Gannett in a Bangs Ambulane. He got a bill for about $800 from the ambulance, and has to go to BASICS. Also, he didn’t get medical amnesty apparently because a staff member called for him, and the police called him to sign a form so he could get JA’ed. When he saw the JA to make an appointment, they said that they would contact him next semester about making an appointment to talk about the police report. What will happen to him? And do the police usually get involved in this?</p>
<p>I don’t know how Cornell will handle this internally.</p>
<p>Underaged drinking is a crime. If you do it, you run the risk of the police being involved. I don’t know how often that is actually the case. </p>
<p>Sorry, but anyone who drinks so much that they require emergency medical care is being extremely reckless and stupid. If you’re going to drink, at least be smart about it, and use sensible moderation.</p>
<p>just thought I’d get on here to mention the medical amnesty protocol is *****<strong><em>. It’s advertised everywhere but you can get *</em></strong>ed over no matter what - if it’s your first time, you still have to take a BASICS alcohol training course. If it’s not your first time you can still get screwed by Cornell possibly with even a JA.
Basically you do not want to have someone call EMS for you if you can avoid it. If you/a friend passes out, try to stay safe, have someone cover you until you are able to walk away. It’s nice that Cornell wants everyone to stay safe on Slope Day, but by having a medical amnesty protocol that doesn’t work it’s just a publicity stunt.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, that said it is still always better to get caught by Cornell Police than Ithaca Police if you can avoid it. Usually I think Ithaca police will be a little less stringent with you since they know they can give you more consequences, but Cornell Police stuff doesn’t usually go on your official police record (just your Cornell judicial record), while Ithaca police stuff does.</p>
<p>On a more positive note, slope day was listed second (though don’t know if order was intentional) in a May 12th Huffington Post article titled “The 10 Best College Music Events In the Country”.</p>
<p>Good lord, child, if someone needs to go to the hospital, don’t hesitate to call because he/she may have to take a BASICS course!</p>
<p>Woody is absolutely right. When the health and safety of a friend and classmate might be at risk, then what is called for is to not fool around. Better, of course, would be to have already encouraged judiciousness with the intake of strong drink; best would be to have already advocated the avoidance of strong drink, imho.</p>
<p>Mayo clinic gives guidelines as to when alcohol poisoning is a medical emergency. </p>
<p>[Alcohol</a> poisoning: Symptoms - MayoClinic.com](<a href=“Alcohol poisoning - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic”>Alcohol poisoning - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic)</p>
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<p>They also recommend that if the person is conscious, you can make a confidential call to poison control to get advice on whether the situation requires medical treatment. </p>
<p>Please don’t let a friend “sleep it off” if they pass out. If you cannot rouse them, call 911.</p>
<p>Which is why no one should get in trouble for calling 911, ever, if it is serious or potentially deemed to be.</p>
<p>No student (person) should be thinking–“I think s/he is really very drunk, but if I call for help, s/he may get in trouble or so might I, or the person hosting the party, so, not to worry, s/he will sleep it off.” </p>
<p>A Cornell student died this semester. An Ithaca College student died this semester. We should never penalize students for asking for help.</p>
<p>And parents, if your students are afraid of what you might see in their insurance claims–just think of the alternative, ie they did not make these claims.</p>
<p>“If you’re going to drink, at least be smart about it, and use sensible moderation.”</p>
<p>That’s absolutely correct.</p>
<p>However, in defense of the indefensible:</p>
<p>If you remember, a long, long, time ago, you may recall that the road to “being smart about it”, and knowing exactly how much intake constituted “sensible moderation” actually, was possibly not a completely instantaneous process for many of your peers long ago either. I have recently had cause to reflect on this via some of S’s goings on.
You can tell them (and I did), but it seems that some kids just insist on learning the hard way, by experiment, instead of just taking our word for it.</p>
<p>They eventually learn. One way or the other.
It’s a lot easier, and safer, though for those who choose to learn the easy way and listen, instead of the hard way.</p>
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<p>Indeed, binge drinking was “the” social activity for Thursday nights when I went to school. :-/ And people did learn “the hard way” what their limits were. We got much less information from adults than college students do now. But even then, I didn’t know of people getting so intoxicated that they passed out or required medical treatment for alcohol poisoning. To me, getting <em>that</em> wasted stil seems like it must involve a great degree of recklessness and intentionally ignoring what they know to be reasonable. I really hope that whenever someone gets that drunk, they are with a friend sober enough to recognize the medical emergency and sensible enought to make the 911 call <em>even if</em> medical amnesty is not all it’s cracked up to be and they might ge in trouble. Better that than dead.</p>
<p>^ “better that than dead”…so true.</p>
<p>The problem stems from the delayed reaction between the time you drink it and the time you feel it. IMO. Which seems to take some people an extraordinarily long time to figure out.</p>
<p>That, and what mathmomvt said.</p>