<p>6-Alumni Giving Rate/ 5% TOTAL<br>
2008 data/ 83rd<br>
2009 data/ 74th<br>
ROSE 9 SPOTS (althought the % stayed tha same)</p>
<p>In short, what is keeping UF back in the USNWR rankings?</p>
<p>1- PEER ASSESMENT of 3.6 worth 25% of the total score.
2- FACULTY RESOURCES at 129th worth 20% of the total score.
3- ALUMNI GIVING RATE at 74th worth 5% of the total score.</p>
<p>FOCUS ON THIS TO “GAME” THE USNWR RANKINGS!!</p>
<p>Right-the peer review is a tough one to crack. Honestly, UF blows the doors off most of the schools + - 10 spots of it. I have no idea how to change peer review though, in my opinion this is the absolute shadiest part of the rankings. Think about it, what US News id doing is asking schools to rank their competitors. Can you imagine putting credibility in asking whether the CEO of Coke thought Pepsico was a good company? there is a direct conflict of interest there. I honestly don’t get why peer review is taken as a credible criteria for the ranking.</p>
<p>Also UF gets a horrible rap for being a Southern School. These same elitests fail to realize that we just celebrated our 50th anniversary for integration at the University of Florida. They act like it just happend 10 years ago or something.</p>
<p>Posted this once before:
Others have bashed UF’s 3.6 PR score. That score does handicap UF in moving up in the USNWR rankings since it’s worth 25% of their total score.</p>
<p>Found this interesting article done in 2005 by a professor at Emory. Others on CC seem to agree with his conclusions that Peer Assessment is linked to Graduate School Assessment.</p>
<p>He concludes through his analysis:
“Strictly from the perspective of enhancing the colleges reputation, then, improving the graduate school would appear to be a relatively effective, even optimal, policy.”</p>
<p>It appears UF is indeed already laying the groundwork for higher Peer Review scores with all the money comming into its graduate programs.</p>
<p>It will however take some time to improve this number in order to increase the PA score.</p>
<p>What I found out also is that in 2009 USNWR rankings there were 3 State Schools, I believe they were PSU, UC- Irvine and UC- Santa Barbara actually had their PEER SCORES DROP!</p>
<p>Their bad fortune will help UF jump them in the rankings.</p>
<p>Sub-Category weights:
a. Faculty compensation /35% - Have no idea how to get this data.
b. Percent faculty with top terminal degree /15% - UF has a 96% here!
c. Percent full-time faculty /5% - UF has a 93% here!
d. Student/faculty ratio/ 5% - UF gets KILLED here!
e. Class size, 1-19 students /30% - UF gets KILLED here!
f. Class size, 50+ students/ 10% - UF gets KILLED here!</p>
<p>^ This is why we need to raise tuition to the national average! Tuition Differential might help, but we clearly need alot more resources (because the state won’t pay, we must turn to tuition revenue).</p>
<p>The graduate school already is highly looked upon in general. A good number of the graduate programs are ranked in the 30’s and a few in the 20’s. When you look into the sub-categories, there are also quite a few ranked in the top 15, I know mine is.</p>
<p>I don’t know if that article is correct or not but it sounds convincing. If it is true, why isn’t the grad school having more of an impact on the UG ranking then?</p>
<p>It probably takes a while for some of the money being spent to take traction.
But who knows, it already may be making a difference.
SSobic posts numerous examples of UF spending money on it’s graduate programs. Every buck helps.</p>
<p>I’d agree with that. They do treat you really well, between the education, attention, research support, career resources and all the nice stuff they give you at Orientation, I’d imagine they are spending a lot. A friend of mine is in the same program but in an Ivy, and he feels like just another lost face in the crowd.</p>
<p>Right now UF has about 16k Graduate/Profession students. Their have been numerous statements that have stipulated that this number will increase greatly in the future. So needless to say the majority of graduate programs should be on the rise.</p>
<p>Also the Undergraduate Program is projected to decrease by 4,000 over the next 4 years. It is my wish that we could eventually get the Undergraduate class to under 28,000 total, and we shoud use the University of Michigan as the benchmark that we must emulate in how UF admits their student body. Just my honest opinion…</p>
<p>U-Texas is another great school that has highly ranked programs but suffers from the method that US News uses to rank schools. In their case, however, I feel it is more justified, as the student body is significantly weaker than UF’s and I feel that student body is undervalued in the US News methodology.</p>
<p>UT-Austin is forced to take the top-10% from Texas Public Highschool, and therefore their FTIC slots are pretty much all taken up because of this factor. If the Texas Legislature ever got rid of this law it’s not out of the realm of possibilities that the University would make a huge jump in the rankings. Basically their graduate programs are stronger then ours because of their disgustingly large endowment.</p>
<p>Selectivity rank of #52
SAT- 1110-1370
69% top 10 students
51% acceptance rate.</p>
<p>I’m confused about how the Texas 10% rule works. You would think this # would be in the high 90%'s not 69%.</p>
<p>The only thing keeping UT- Austin ahead of UF is the 4.0 PEER ASSESMENT worth 25% of the score. HOWEVER their PR score was 4.1 last year!
Clearly a reflection of its graduate programs.</p>
<p>Anyhow, they and PSU are within reach of UF passing them next year if UF starts applying the tuition differential in the right places. (not for staff raises like I believe they proposed)</p>