<p>Men have somehow succeeded in convincing some young women to embrace the porn star culture.</p>
<p>Which isn’t surprising since some have grown up watching really trashy reality shows, & I include those Bachelor shows.
We haven’t had cable since before the kids were born, ( back when MTV was * only* music videos), and the kids were really too busy to watch much more than The West Wing and videotapes, from their rehearsals, practices & homework.</p>
<p>I haven’t read everything, but interesting thread. I don’t really think kids have changed much over the last few generations, but I think they are much more informed and “worldly” now due to internet/communications. Even though past generations may have engaged in most of the same behaviors in some form, now everyone knows what everyone else is doing. There is going to be a hook-up mentality at any college, even those in conservative areas and with religious affilitations. Not everyone will partake of it, but there will always be that extreme group who loves to participate and then tell everyone else that they did. I guarantee there are plenty of students on the more conservative end who do not participate, and then the huge group that falls somewhere between. The trick is to just find the group where each person fits in, and that usually happens pretty quickly. And (fortunately, I think) my kids, boys and girls, have been pretty open with me about what takes place around college. It’s not like we have these “deep” moments between us where we discuss such things. I think that since the age range of our children is 4 kids in 12 years, they tend to casually talk about what is going on among the different age groups when we all get together. Our oldest daughter is a high school teacher, and our youngest son is a college sophomore, so they like to compare notes, and I happen to be there to hear it. Occasionally I think it might be better not to hear quite so much.I certainly did not share with my parents when I was in college in the '70’s!</p>
<p>The studies regarding when kids begin having sex is flawed because that information is self reported and there is no way to ensure accuracy. What compels a student to tell the truth? When the drinking age was 18 and the federal government forcibly changed it to 21 drinking was not the taboo it is today with the legal ramifications. So what shall kids do with their free time? Sex is legal. It doesn’t require a fake ID and it doesn’t get you a MIP. Everything else that relates to the feeling of “high” is illegal so sex would be a natural choice. Kids don’t drink beer. Its easier to get drugs or sneak off and have sex. If they drink they drink Vodka because it is easy to hide in water bottles or mixed with soda and the like and has little odor. During prohibition drinking rates went up. People made gin in their bathtubs. Prohibiting adults (18-21) from drinking has consequences. They don’t drink low content alcohol because it is too noticeable so they get plastered drinking hard alcohol and inhibitions go the way of the wind and poor choices are made. This is not unique to college campuses. An 18 year old can go to war but drinking a beer is illegal how does this make sense? An 18 year is legally an adult whose parents no longer have to provide financial support and can legally vote but cannot borrow money for college until they are older than 24, makes no sense. At 18 kids are either an adult or they are not. Society is sending mixed signals.</p>
<p>One thing that never changes: a lot of parents are absolutely certain that all the hell-raising is happening in some other community or some other circle of kids. When I was in high school, there was lots of casual sex, binge drinking, and drug use. A huge number of parents of participating kids KNEW FOR SURE that their kids weren’t involved. How do I know? Because the deluded parents talked about it all the time at our elite private school’s frequent parent meetings. My parents would come home and say “Mrs. Y reassured the other parents that the kids aren’t drinking at this age,” and I’d say, “That’s weird, I had to leave her house early on Friday because everyone was puking.”</p>
<p>I was a giant nerd who never did anything interesting. But even I knew which houses let you get away with murder.</p>
<p>@dfbdfb, you made me spew coffee on my monitor, thank you. This whole virtuous past stuff is nonsense, pure and simple, the whole claim of the religious right that in ‘golden times’ people behaved like members of the Waltons or something, usually when they were trying to prove that ‘liberal values’ destroyed the country, that sex education caused this,etc…I was fortunate to have a father who never shied from bs when he saw it, he was in the army in WWII, talked to a lot of guys, and he said the only difference from then until now was back then it was something that wasn’t talked about in general society but kids were having sex, etc…obviously, pre WWII not a lot of people went to college, but the point is that things don’t change all that much. I would argue that a lot of it is out in the open, as opposed to pretending it didn’t exist. The Victorian era was the height of this, the claim of purity and such was basical a social facade, the rates of things like illegitimate kids among the working class were well known but covered up, and the sexcapades of the upper class were no less debauched then the prior periods, it was well known who was sleeping with who and so forth…</p>
<p>There are differences, I think social networking and such has made the job of finding partners easier, but I think quite honestly that the people who were likely to ‘hook up’, casual sex and so forth, were always there and doing it, it was just not quite as easy. Veronica and Archie at the ice cream parlor it wasn’t, it is just today they skip the ice cream or the date…I think it remains to be seen if socialization has changed, if kids are less social, don’t want to date, etc, or if it simply is easier for those who want to jump around to do so…my gut feeling based on what I have seen is things haven’t changed that much,there are kids dating and in relationships and those screwing around. I am always suspect when I hear the latest thing about ‘this generation’, I guess I have been around long enough to have heard plenty of hype about kids of each generation, the 60’s kids who pioneered sex, drugs and rock and roll were going to be on an extended acid trip (didn’t happen for 99% of people, the hippies of the 60’s became the yuppies of the 80’s, as stolid as their parents in the 50 ever were), the 70’s were lost, self serving idiots, the 80’s were the Gen X that were all going to work at McDonalds, and so forth…lot of hype, lot of “In my day, we went to school, walked both ways, 5 miles, uphill in the snow to get there, and were glad we were given 14 hours of homework a night, after we birthed the cow, castrated the sheep, sang the hends to sleep and did the laundry on a rock in the river…” ('but dad"…“no buts”…“But dad, you grew up in an apartment in NYC!”)</p>
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<h1>Her roommate recently boasted of hooking up with five guys in one night</h1>
<h1>Ok, that is gross.</h1>
<p>Why is it so gross? Because she is a girl? Isn’t scoring a girl a fair game among young male HS/college students? Don’t we condone it all the time for boys? I don’t know why girls should be the only ones holding up “moral” standard. By all means if they want hold it up but if not that shouldn’t fall on girls alone.</p>
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<p>Are you serious? Do you think that I (and others) wouldn’t think it was gross if a guy said (did) this?</p>
<p>And who the heck “condones” this type of behavior for boys??? </p>
<p>Interesting that some people wrote that extrapolate my area high school kids to the general population but I can see the same in some posts where poster also extrapolate that poster experience to the general parents population. </p>