<p>does it mean i will have zero chance at any of the ivy now?? i am an international student by the way.</p>
<p>Depends on which Ivy. Dartmouth, Brown, Penn, Columbia, Harvard, Yale, Princeton? If your applications there are of the same quality, then yes, you can take your NU rejection as an indicator of more bad news to come. However, there are always anomalies. </p>
<p>Did you apply for FA? That could change things as I don’t think NU is need-blind for internationals.</p>
<p>i did not apply for FA. I applied to all the ivies, and was deferred by Cornell during Early decision. I think my apps are of the same quality, omg, i am not ready for the cascading of bad news on 31 March:(</p>
<p>What are your stats? I mean, some of those schools might be more in need of students from Indonesia.</p>
<p>my stats are of average, SAT l 2180, CGPA: 3.42. I was the top student in my school and my teacher recommendation letters are good. My common app essay was “amazing” according to my readers. I have thought the ‘deference’ by Cornell would mean ‘acceptance’ to other non ivies, now i know i am wrong 
:)</p>
<p>I’m not sure the quality of Cornell’s pool is any higher than NU’s nor its admissions more selective qualitatively and perhaps quantitatively as well (as we have higher numbers). If anything, Cornell gets a lot more “hail mary” applicants because of its Ivy League status.</p>
<p>thank you liontreelion for your reply. The rejection really makes me feel badddddd. In the letter “You should not feel our decision reflects negatively on you or your potential as a college student. We simply are unable to admit all of the students who present a solid record of achievement”. Do they know what they are talking about?? If i am not even admitted into non ivies, how am i going to have hopes on the competitive ivies now?? the rejection really reflects negatively on me&)*)</p>
<p>Did you apply to any other schools? Keep in mind though that admissions are such a crapshoot these days that barring any flaws in your application, you just might get into one of those schools. Also, NU especially cares about the Why NU essay, so if your essay was only so-so, you just gave them an easy reason to deny your application. I will tell you though that your GPA seems to be a major problem (most admits have 3.7 or greater), not that I know much about your education system. You did say you’re at the top of your school… and your SAT is certainly respectable.</p>
<p>@iwantivyleagues</p>
<p>I’m in the same situation and i totally feel for you…
i feel completely dejected, with no hope to the ivys…
I have fairly similar stats to yours (2210 SAT, 2270 for SAT II, 4.0uw GPA, excellent refs…)
i heard that JHU is coming out tomorrow, and all i can think about is rejection
First Wustl (wait list), then rejection from Chicago and NW.
Life sucks</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>Hey H20, I saw your stats in the other page and I’m at a loss as to why you were rejected. I’m thinking it’s because you’re an international asking for FA and/or your essays weren’t interesting enough (although you did say your main essay was excellent… hmmm). If it’s the former only, you might have better chances at the more competitive schools that are need-blind to internationals. Let’s see what happens on Tuesday. Where else did you apply?</p>
<p>I wouldn’t be too sure. I know I used some very different essays for Northwestern and other schools. I was accepted, but I’m not using that as much as an indicator.</p>
<p>Benny, only NU rejections, not acceptances, could be taken as a general indicator of admissibility at the more selective schools. If you’re rejected by a school with a much higher acceptance rate, it’s unlikely (though not impossible) you’ll get into a more selective one. However, if you’re accepted by a less selective one, you might or might not get into the more selective ones depending on how high your admissibility index is (yes, you might’ve met the threshold for top schools but did you exceed it far enough to meet the standards of the most selective schools?). Again, this theory presupposes that your applications to all schools are of the same quality. It also recognizes that there are anomalies in the system.</p>
<p>I don’t think there’s any correlation - my daughter was accepted to Yale but wait listed at Northwestern. Crapshoot!</p>
<p>amtc, when you add the theatre program into the mix, you change the entire dynamic. Completely different pool of applicants.</p>
<p>HEY MAN! i have the same exact problem. I got rejected, though I’m only assuming it was more than just my international status. </p>
<p>I’m an international and need pretty much all the money i could get. I live in the Us though…
But i applied with a FA that pretty much mandates them giving me full tuition if they were really full need. </p>
<p>My stats were 2330, 4.8 weighter, 4.0 unweighted. I got 800’s on all my SAT IIs except a 790 on bio M. i also had a ton of ECs. </p>
<p>I know my stats are average for the ivies, but does my rejection to northwestern really stump my chances of getting in anywhere else. Ughh…</p>
<p>Bleh I’m domestic but I was rejected also.</p>
<p>1440/1600 on the SAT
32 on the ACT
4.0 unweighted GPA
SAT-IIs of 710 chem & phys, 680 M2 and 640 BioM</p>
<p>I was <em>rejected</em> from their electrical engineering program. And I thought I did everything right, I visited, met with a prof, chatted up admissions, etc.</p>
<p>Oh man am I steamed.</p>
<p>Also, I already feel rejected at CMU, Cornell, Columbia and Princeton.</p>
<p>If that happens I’ll be torn between a full two year scholarship to my community college (top engineering transfer program in the country), Gatech or UIUC.</p>
<p>^GaTech has a GREAT engineering program; so does UIUC (though location is not appealing)</p>
<p>I think you still have a chance. Don’t get down on yourself no matter what, and let the chips fall where they may.</p>
<p>Yes, decisions are a crap shoot, I got into NU, Cal, and UCLA with a 32 ACT, 2060 SATI, rejected by Duke, and waitlisted by Wustl and Rice.</p>
<p>I think NU, Duke, Wustl, and Rice are all very similar, but my decisions for each of them varied.</p>
<p>perischack - Scores are scores, grades are grades and as far as her credits she has both professional (episodics, commercials, live performances) and her non-professional are substantial so there’s no logical reason for her being waitlisted. Plus, we require no financial aid and last year they took the Salutitorian from our high school (which my daughter is this year) who had less credits into the School of Communication as a Theatre major (which he is probably switching out of after Freshman year). The only “on paper” difference is that my daughter is, obviously, a girl and the other student is a boy.</p>
<p>It’s okay though because she does have other options, even though Northwestern is her first choice, and we’re pretty sure she’ll be accepted soon.</p>