<p>You have to go to the edupass web site and study over everything which might help you understand the reality of your situation better. The web site has all the rules and stuff for internationals and University funding.</p>
<p>I obviously do not work for them or anything like that :)</p>
<p>If you parents have this certain situation and have been able to foot the bill for you to study in Canada, then I would either stay in Canada or go back to your own country (if that is plausible). I would love to know what country you are from just out of curiosity.</p>
<p>In Canada a gap year is the norm, btw. No one would mind it. You could even, while you are regrouping, take an online class through Harvard Extension.</p>
<p>-a gap year is the norm… yeah there seem to be many many opportunities.</p>
<p>-i have no intention in applying for harvard–i was just poking fun at my CSS profile–
No school seems to be rich enough to regard me as someone in need of FA.</p>
<p>-Canadian universities are just not challenging enough.
For the very fact that they are easy to get in, my parents wouldnt find them satisfactory. Once again, it is not like i do everything for their sake; but for me, filial duties have absolute priority. idk how i can convey this sense to anyone here.</p>
<p>Plus, I sort of wish to go to law school for postgrad/grad, apparently Canadian pre-law undergrad doesn’t work.</p>
<p>-Where i am from? A country that doesnt allow dual citizenship. Long time ago, I had personally given up using the canadian residency advantage, if there is any.</p>
<p>… can’t edit?!
a clear-up: a country where dual citizenship isn’t Recognized. meaning: if i make that oath for canada, i will be renouncing my home country citizenship, automatically.</p>
<p>i just need advice from a parent/student’s perspective.</p>
<p>Let’s see if I have this all straight.Student is living and attending school in Canada.
Parent are living and working in a country without dual citizenshiP but with factories, say China?
Student wants very much to please parents and attend a school that would make them proud.
Schools in Canada are not “good enough” and anyway student wnts prelaw and for some reason thinks that Canadian schools won’t provide her with that.</p>
<p>While parent own a factory in homecountry and assets are listed at over $2million, this work is not really to earn money but to explore interests.</p>
<p>Without grades and scores are guessing that they are not enough to earn enough merit aid foR attendance to a usa school, hence the emphasis on need based.</p>
<p>I undestand desire to please parents and frustration with how financial aid tkes into consideration business owners.</p>
<p>But, as descendants of D.A.R. will tell you , FAFSA expects virtually all business owners to pay the bulk of their childs education, whether it be from loans, savings or current income.</p>
<p>So for your family to believe that schools (and the taxpayers) should subsidize the education of an international student because " they really, really, want them too? "
Is na</p>
<p>“Canadian universities are just not challenging enough.”</p>
<p>Where do you get this idea? Anyone who has been in the higher education business within the past half century is fully aware that McGill, U of Toronto, and U of British Columbia are considered world class institutions. Depending on your individual major field of study, and whether one is thinking about undergraduate or postgraduate degrees, there are quite a few more Canadian universities that would come to mind. And, please don’t forget that “relatively easy” admission does not mean that it is equally easy to complete a degree program!</p>
<p>Law as a field of study is highly dependent on the part of the world (and in the US even the specific state) in which you intend to practice. If you are headed into International Law, a first degree in law from just about anywhere on the planet would serve as a starting point. Generally speaking, International Law is a postgraduate program.</p>
<p>Sorry but I do not agree with this. Where I am from, there are many students who would love to go to McGill or University of Toronto. Both are terrific schools and for us Americans (with the exchange rate being what it is) are bargains too.</p>
<p>*-Canadian universities are just not challenging enough.
For the very fact that they are easy to get in, my parents wouldnt find them satisfactory. *</p>
<p>This is kind of a hoot. Your parents don’t want to pay for your education, but they want want veto rights? LOL Tell them that you’ll go to the best school that they will PAY FOR!</p>
<p>Where I get lost is that the parents don’t think Canadian schools are good enough, but don’t want to pay for a US one despite substantial assets. All of you need to get real.</p>
<p>Where do you get this idea? Anyone who has been in the higher education business within the past half century is fully aware that McGill, U of Toronto, and U of British Columbia are considered world class institutions.</p>
<p>ITA</p>
<p>Tell them that you’ll go to the best school that they will PAY FOR!</p>
<p>As a kid virtually living alone, I prefer not to release too much info about myself. i don’t wanna be tracked down by random ppl then get kidnapped on the streets or something-just saying</p>
<p>I don’t think canadian uni’s are any bad. in fact, some of them are better than a large number of schools in the states. so waterloo and mcgill are on my list. it’s just like american students applying for in-state public colleges as their safeties.
The comment “not challenging” is solely based on their admission process. not enough selective. can’t motivate me as much.</p>
<p>many schools claim to be need-blind for intl’s. however, according to what i heard from other intl’s, very few are asking for aid, regardless if they can actually afford it or not. i mean, if all of them had filed the CSS, many would be determined to have ‘need’. they simply chose not to so that their chance for admission wouldn’t be marred, since what they have heard was that colleges are not as need-blind as they claim to be when it comes to intl’s(which i doubt, btw).
all right then… now that I know I shouldn’t ask for aid, either, I should start planning for my job/scholarship/gap, etc.</p>
<p>-going to the best college they’ll pay for?
did you all do that…??
well, it is probably ethic from your perspective.
the thing is that, in my family, it is a norm to assume that kids are not supposed to get financial support from their families after the age of 18. Both of my parents were financially detached when they left home for college. my mom didn’t get to get her master + CPA degree in U of NSW until i was 10!(parent models are just pressure) i believe rich kids ought to be more considerate, really.</p>
<p>I am by no means a financial aid expert but have you considered writing a letter to the financial aid offices of the colleges you are applying to to explain in more detail your unique financial situation?</p>
<p>If you read more of the threads on CC you can see that , even on CC students are atteNding community colleges, using running start and AP test credits to save money in college not only by attending in state Public universities ( as my own daughter is doing and I am very proud of her too)</p>
<p>She and many others are not too proud to attend a school which offerS many opportunities for students even if the name doesn’t have the same connotations as HYP, and they are doing so knowinG they are not amassing huge debt for themselves and their parents.</p>
<p>I fail to see any compelling reason why an international student with means and assets should be given need based aid to a “prestigous enougj for my parents” university , just because she argues that competitive admissions is needed to motivate her.
If that is the case it doesn’t sound like you are even ready to take advantage of the opportunities at college, so I would agee that a gap year or two is probably in order.</p>
<p>^parents refusing to pay/kid not wanting to be dependent/cultural differences are probably not sufficient for special circumstances.</p>
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<p>Most people do try to send their offspring to the best college they can afford. Some can’t afford any college expenses and the student pays. Often it’s a combined effort. It depends on the family but, imo, the smart parent does not want their children starting off with an overwhelming amount of debt. Maybe it’s self-preservation When many of us went to school, it was entirely possible to pay for college through a combination of work and relatively small student loans and scholarships. That is not the case anymore and parent’s who have done their research quickly realize this.</p>
<p>^^^I didn’t attend college right after high school nor did any of my siblings do so ( nor my husband), although one of my husbands sisters diD attend a local university for a year and my brother finished his electrical engineering degree while in the military.
There is nothing to be embarrassed about to attending a college within your means. Americans finance college with savings, loans, workstudy, by attending a community college for two years and tHen finishing at a 4 year school like one of my nephews, joining the military like my brotHer, working for a company like another nephew is, which encourages employees to continue their education by paying for a great deal of it or simply waiting until they can afford to and working to save up money to do so in the meantime.</p>
<p>The USA is not someplace where many are rich. Household income is about $47,000 (US) for many. Many are currently out of work in case you don’t read the papers and many more are just scraping by.</p>
<p>I’m sorry that your parents felt that they had to send you abroad to go to school and that this sacrifice would be worth it when you received funds to attend a prestigous American University.
They were misinformed, but not any more misinformed than the thousands of American parents who scraped to put money in their child’s collegE fund , only to find out years later that not only was it not enough to pay for four years of college but having it in their childs name lessened tHe ability to receive need based aid.</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with most public univerities. I personally know several students including scions of cable tycoons and of CEOs of major international companies who have attended in state and out of state public schools.</p>
<p>It is true that it is more difficult for admittance to a university like Yale than it is. University of Indiana @Bloomington. However you might find that depeNding on major it is quite rigourous and in an effort to reduce class loads in high demand courses there is a definite weed out process. If competition. Is what it takes to get you to perform your best , you should give schools like McGill and UBC serious consideration.</p>
<p>The bottom line is this. Right now your parents aren’t dealing with reality. They are in denial. The quickest way out of denial is a pile of acceptances, rejections, and FA packages.</p>
<p>So, apply to a variety of schools, and the show the results to your parents. They will be shocked into reality. At that point they will realize that you’ll go to the best school that THEY can afford to send you to.</p>
<p>I sure did. AND I didn’t receive a nickel of support from my parents after the age of 18. Of course that was back when the dinos roamed and this was possible at a four year residential public university. I also received great need based aid because my single mom had NO MONEY to pay for me to go to college. Still…I went to, and graduated from an inexpensive public university in my state that was not particularly well known, prestigious, or viewed as “challenging”. I’ve had a mighty successful career nonetheless.</p>
<p>Have you shared your GPA and test scores? If you are truly superior, then this issue may resolve itself.</p>
<p>That said, with the new information you have shared, do you also intend to be financially independent when you are attending college or will your parents help you pay for it?</p>
<p>Another thought: an international student we know, whose parents had a lot of money and resources, was offered a full ride at St Olaf. Now, it isn’t as prestigious as your paremts might like, but it was a full ride. You might also consider the U of Alabama or Auburn.</p>
<p>Maybe your parents can do some research about how much the cost of college has risen against inflation in general. Would they rather support you when you can’t find a decent job?</p>
<p>Maybe there’s a way to arrange to pay them back, perhaps work for the family business. But most Americans who can afford to send their kids to good colleges see it as not only a practical gift, but understand that their wealth will deny their kids a chance at top colleges if they are unwilling to help. </p>
<p>Finding scholarships to cover a top college is highly unlikely. Working during a GAP year will only raise your EFC.</p>
<p>We pay for 3 kids at top schools. In no way do we consider them inconsiderate for accepting this gift. This is what we have worked for, to give them the best start in life. As long as they take this privilege seriously and do their best, we are very pleased to be able to do this for them.</p>
When many of us went to school, it was entirely possible to pay for college through a combination of work and relatively small student loans and scholarships. That is not the case anymore and parent’s who have done their research quickly realize this.</p>
and many more are just scraping by.</p>